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artist/song payloads and iTunes Genius
« on: April 07, 2011, 10:57:53 PM »
I've been testing this software lately and I'm very impressed!  Probably going to buy in a couple of days regardless of the answer to this question, but I want to ask anyway.

1.  Is there a program that allows you to tag all of your mp3s (I have 11,000) in a way that the title includes the artist name?

I say this because I have a really large library, so there are lots of situations where there are multiple versions of a song, and I'd like to get more specific (and I want to be able to do this in the car without looking at the screen, so being able to say "Option 1" might not help me out).

I retagged a few files to try it out and it handled this well--just need to figure out how to do it in batches.


2.  Is it possible to have a voice command to create a Genius playlist in iTunes on the fly?  For example, I want to create a playlist with songs similar to Brown Eyed Girl, so I say "Genius, Brown Eyed Girl" ... or something to that effect.

Any help would be great!  Looking forward to learning this awesome program!


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Re: artist/song payloads and iTunes Genius
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2011, 12:02:04 AM »
I do enjoy a challenge so I'll look into both of these.

Unfortunately, the geniuses that created genius didn't think to add any methods to interact with genius in their api.  They don't even seem to have any keyboard shortcuts to start genius!  Wacky.  Anyway if you always run iTunes maximized it is probably possible to start a song playing first, and then ask to create a genius mix for the current song.  VC would then send a mouse click to the genius button.  This appears to always be in the same place regardless of what windows are open etc. so as long as you always run in full screen the button should always be in the same spot.  It is possible that future versions of the api will include genius functions, but I wouldn't hold your breath on that one.

The other one is probably more doable.  What would be the ideal phrasing for that do you think?

Play song "songname" by "artistname" ?  I wouldn't go re-tagging all your music incorrectly.  Hopefully we can do something that makes more sense.

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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2011, 03:55:11 AM »
I've been testing this software lately and I'm very impressed!  Probably going to buy in a couple of days regardless of the answer to this question, but I want to ask anyway.

1.  Is there a program that allows you to tag all of your mp3s (I have 11,000) in a way that the title includes the artist name?

I say this because I have a really large library, so there are lots of situations where there are multiple versions of a song, and I'd like to get more specific (and I want to be able to do this in the car without looking at the screen, so being able to say "Option 1" might not help me out).

I retagged a few files to try it out and it handled this well--just need to figure out how to do it in batches.


2.  Is it possible to have a voice command to create a Genius playlist in iTunes on the fly?  For example, I want to create a playlist with songs similar to Brown Eyed Girl, so I say "Genius, Brown Eyed Girl" ... or something to that effect.

Any help would be great!  Looking forward to learning this awesome program!


I think the shareware program "Total Commander" (http://www.ghisler.com) is a good start to rename your music files.

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Re: artist/song payloads and iTunes Genius
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2011, 07:13:52 PM »
Thanks for the responses guys.  I'm going to put the library-retagging on hold for now and see if I really need to do that.

As far as the genius functionality goes, I can leave iTunes maximized at all times so that a mouse coordinate for the button would be consistent. 

Could you point me in the right direction as to how to set this up?

Awesome!

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Re: artist/song payloads and iTunes Genius
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2011, 07:26:31 PM »
I'm working on both, I'll get back to you within the next 24-48 hours.

- Are you using the latest version available on the forum? (0.884)

- What resolution is the monitor that you are running itunes on? ( i.e. 1920x1080, 1280,720, 1024x768 etc.)

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Re: artist/song payloads and iTunes Genius
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2011, 07:32:03 PM »
I'm working on both, I'll get back to you within the next 24-48 hours.

- Are you using the latest version available on the forum? (0.884)

- What resolution is the monitor that you are running itunes on? ( i.e. 1920x1080, 1280,720, 1024x768 etc.)

You da man!

Yes, I am using the latest version--so far so good!

I am using a netbook, so my resolution is 1024x600--hope that still works!

Thanks dude.

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Re: artist/song payloads and iTunes Genius
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2011, 07:34:19 PM »
I may be asking a question that's already been posted here....but since I have your attention  ;)

is there a way I can make it go into standby immediately following any command? (other than "listen")

I thought the little checkbox next to the green button would take care of this, but it seems to only work once.

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Re: artist/song payloads and iTunes Genius
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2011, 07:43:08 PM »
you may just want to use prefix mode, where you always leave it in standby and it will only execute the command if you say the prefix first.  You'll find settings for that on the general options page.

But you can also set it to "timeout" and go into standby after x seconds.  This is also on the main options page, under "other options" change "idle timeout" to a value other than 0 (seconds).

The resolution on your netbook is not an issue, but it will determine where the mouse click must be placed in order to start Genius.  In fact, if you want you can send me a screen capture of your netbook running iTunes.

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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2011, 07:48:05 PM »
Oh duhh...good ole prefix mode. Thanks.

Screenshot attached.

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Re: artist/song payloads and iTunes Genius
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2011, 10:44:39 PM »
download the attached xml file.  Open your command tree editor and drag the file on to the tree on the left to import it.

click "save all and close" and then restart VoxCommando.

The phrase used to trigger the command is "Create genius playlist" but you can change it to whatever you want.

Let me know if it works.

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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2011, 01:05:07 PM »
download the attached xml file.  Open your command tree editor and drag the file on to the tree on the left to import it.

click "save all and close" and then restart VoxCommando.

The phrase used to trigger the command is "Create genius playlist" but you can change it to whatever you want.

Let me know if it works.

thank you very much for doing this.  your xml functions as it should, although the genius button in the lower right that it wants to click is greyed out unless you highlight the song you want to use first.  but the little genius symbol in the "now playing" area near the top works just fine. 

so i just changed your coordinates and it works like a champ.  thanks man.

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Re: artist/song payloads and iTunes Genius
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2011, 02:36:07 PM »
cool, I didn't know about that one.

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Re: artist/song payloads and iTunes Genius
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2011, 08:24:13 PM »
download the attached xml file.  Open your command tree editor and drag the file on to the tree on the left to import it.

click "save all and close" and then restart VoxCommando.

The phrase used to trigger the command is "Create genius playlist" but you can change it to whatever you want.

Let me know if it works.

James,

Could you teach me how to make the "create genius playlist" function automatically trigger following a "play song _______" command?

I know Genius isn't the most accurate thing in the world, but I'm lazy kinda like picking a random song and then letting Genius have a go at it :)

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Re: artist/song payloads and iTunes Genius
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2011, 10:44:41 AM »


1.  Is there a program that allows you to tag all of your mp3s (I have 11,000) in a way that the title includes the artist name?

I say this because I have a really large library, so there are lots of situations where there are multiple versions of a song, and I'd like to get more specific (and I want to be able to do this in the car without looking at the screen, so being able to say "Option 1" might not help me out).

I retagged a few files to try it out and it handled this well--just need to figure out how to do it in batches.



James,

Have you been able to think of a way to avoid having to do this? 

Here's an example I ran into the other day (it happens pretty frequently in a large library though):

I asked it to 'play song Billie Jean' and it brought back 2 songs:  Seals and Crofts - Ruby Jean and Billie Lee and Michael Jackson - Billie Jean.

Another example would be if I wanted to listen to Ants Marching by DMB -- well, I have about 18 versions of the song because there are so many live albums.  So in a perfect world, I'd want to be able to command it to play Ants Marching Live at Luther College.

The answer may just be that I need to retag those mp3s that will cause those bumps in the road...

Thoughts?

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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2011, 03:03:40 PM »
James,

Have you been able to think of a way to avoid having to do this? 

Here's an example I ran into the other day (it happens pretty frequently in a large library though):

I asked it to 'play song Billie Jean' and it brought back 2 songs:  Seals and Crofts - Ruby Jean and Billie Lee and Michael Jackson - Billie Jean.

Another example would be if I wanted to listen to Ants Marching by DMB -- well, I have about 18 versions of the song because there are so many live albums.  So in a perfect world, I'd want to be able to command it to play Ants Marching Live at Luther College.

The answer may just be that I need to retag those mp3s that will cause those bumps in the road...

Thoughts?
Hi ltjdangle911,

I'm not James, but will try to help you. With MediaMonkey would be less of a problem, but I have no experience with genius. If you rename mp3 and most several at once, use as Total Commander, see Fig. There is also a plugin for this program to edit ID3 tags.

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