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albertpujol

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Android Mic that works like a normal mic
« on: April 02, 2013, 03:31:57 PM »
After some work and  your help finally my voice control works charming in the dinning room , now I'm thinking on the idea to extent it to another rooms , I've some old phone aroung home with media remotes software  , so this way I could turn on and off my dinning room itunes who is connected to speakears on alll the rooms. Now my idea is to extend voice control this way I could star/stop music playing in the room or in the bathroom, the idea is to use the phone like mic , I tried your app and it works cool but the problem is that I want to have hand free system , like in the dinning room , is any posibility that the tcp/mic works like a normal mic , always opened without  need to tilt the phone to start/end the recording.?

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Re: Android Mic that works like a normal mic
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2013, 03:59:03 PM »
At the moment, this is not possible using VoxWav, but even if it were it would kill your Android battery very quickly. 

Do you intent to leave the android plugged in all the time?

You could try using one of the other Android apps available that claim to turn your android into a mic for your pc

- Wo Mic
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wo.voice&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS53by52b2ljZSJd

- Pocket Audio
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.senstic.PocketAudioMicrophone&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5zZW5zdGljLlBvY2tldEF1ZGlvTWljcm9waG9uZSJd

-possibly others out there too...

Both these apps will kill your battery if running all the time, and remember that only one microphone can be active at a time on VC. so you will probably need to switch inputs when you change rooms.

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Re: Android Mic that works like a normal mic
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2013, 05:39:57 AM »
After some work and  your help finally my voice control works charming in the dinning room , now I'm thinking on the idea to extent it to another rooms , I've some old phone aroung home with media remotes software  , so this way I could turn on and off my dinning room itunes who is connected to speakears on alll the rooms. Now my idea is to extend voice control this way I could star/stop music playing in the room or in the bathroom, the idea is to use the phone like mic , I tried your app and it works cool but the problem is that I want to have hand free system , like in the dinning room , is any posibility that the tcp/mic works like a normal mic , always opened without  need to tilt the phone to start/end the recording.?

Thank you!

You can also use Skype together with VirtualCable, but what James said "all this solutions will kill your battery very fast" or you have it always connected to a power supply.
If you want to control VC from any point of your hole house and also hands free, we have two working solutions to do this (there are more solutions available but I think it is to expensive).

1. A wireless headset with DECT (Digital Enhanced Cordless Telecommunications) - this headsets have a range inside a house up to 160 feet and the base is connect via USB to your HTPC.
There some manufacturer available (Jabra, Sennheiser, Plantronics) you can also take a look here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvOHRgLlzw1rdEM0c2tpTjdGTkhPaXBTWENjc3JMNEE#gid=0 and here http://voxcommando.com/forum/index.php?topic=996.0

2. A wireless mic that is normaly used on a stage. A review is written here: http://voxcommando.com/forum/index.php?topic=800.0

If you have any question about the hardware, you can also visit our weekly VC meeting on google http://voxcommando.com/forum/index.php?topic=1029.msg8588#msg8588

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Re: Android Mic that works like a normal mic
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2013, 04:25:42 AM »
James, yes I have this control phones always plugged , so the battery drain it's not a problem, about the other software , yes I've take a look to them, and they work , but the problem is what you said VC only admits one normal mic, so it's not a valid solution ,with your vox application this doesn't happen you could have many , so it's a pity that it couldn't work like a always on  mic solution.

Kalle , about your wearable microphone options ,really I don't want to wear anything with me , this configuration for me lost all the magic of voice control , for me the interesting point is the voice solutions is control the equipment without wearing anything , but thank your for the information.

I will think on the idea of putting some wired mics and joint them in the conexion to the pc with a mixer, but with some rooms it's really hard to do.

Thank for your answers,and for you software and technology , it makes me have something interisting to do during weekends.
 

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Re: Android Mic that works like a normal mic
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2013, 04:53:43 AM »
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I will think on the idea of putting some wired mics and joint them in the conexion to the pc with a mixer, but with some rooms it's really hard to do.

If you can invest in a mixer - there is a solution available - this mixer work with a automatic threshold on mic input. It can switched to the mic on which a sound is recognized.

Here is one of them: http://www.shure.com/americas/products/mixers-dsp/scm410-4-channel-automatic-mixer

but veeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyy expensiv  ;)
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Re: Android Mic that works like a normal mic
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2013, 08:55:21 AM »
I guess you can use VAC instead of buying a mixer.  I am working on an 'always on' version of VoxWav, but if you want a mic in every room, this is a pretty expensive solution.  You might as well put a Zotac in each room, each one running VC.

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Re: Android Mic that works like a normal mic
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2013, 03:17:47 PM »
Oh thank you for your ideas, you showed me some interesting hardware I didn't know that it exist , zotac is cool :) :) :)

But if you are working in a always on version I think that using my integrated control mobile will be enough, cause they are installed and cool installed , so if they could also make voice control is perfect, if not the mixer option is also interesiting ,perhaps i could find some second hand cheap option (even a inalhambric one)



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Re: Android Mic that works like a normal mic
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2013, 11:11:02 AM »
Here is a full solution that you can tinker with: http://james.lipsit.com/whole.htm

I considered using it as a concept and modifying to meet my specific needs but but haven't got around to it as I'm using my Galaxy S2 mostly (VoxWav is great!)

I have a Shure 8 channel mixer (SCM-810) with Intellimix (shuts off any non-transmitting mic ports)- if anyone is interested in purchasing (cheap), send me a PM.

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Re: Android Mic that works like a normal mic
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2013, 02:54:25 PM »
The page is really cool , but it's a expensive solution.

I've been thinking in different options cheap options, I one may be interesting, if James make that voice commando listen to different input on the same time  , put some cheap usb wireless mic (like the playstation one , connected to the pc , so this way would really really inexpensive solutions.

But I don't know if it's easy to make voice commando listening to diffent inputs.

Anyway for me the always versión of android would be the best option of all , cause just with my control phone I would have a voice control input in every room where now I have a remote .

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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2013, 04:22:55 PM »
The page is really cool , but it's a expensive solution.

I've been thinking in different options cheap options, I one may be interesting, if James make that voice commando listen to different input on the same time  , put some cheap usb wireless mic (like the playstation one , connected to the pc , so this way would really really inexpensive solutions.

But I don't know if it's easy to make voice commando listening to diffent inputs.

Anyway for me the always versión of android would be the best option of all , cause just with my control phone I would have a voice control input in every room where now I have a remote .

If you want to use more mic inputs in VC, you can use VAC (VirtualAudioCable), it can simulate up to 256 audiocards (mic inputs) at one pc. There is a trial version avalaible: http://software.muzychenko.net/eng/vac.htm
ou can also take a look on our WiKi: http://voxcommando.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Using_Skype_and_Mobile_Device_as_a_wifi_Microphone

With a the Wireless USB Mic is the range limited to ~10 Meters (33 feet)  ;)

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