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mikehende

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Can VC voice command this please
« on: January 22, 2019, 07:22:04 PM »
Hey guys, been a while. I am now trying out MM on my Android. I am using MM to simply run a playlist but whenever i should need to, I want to search for any tune in the library and Play Next or Play Now as it is doing right now, that is all.

Can VC allow me to do this with speech command please so I say for example 'play Iran by flock of seagulls next" or something similar to have the tune play next or now?

Or better yet, can VC run the command from my Android with MM playing on my pc?
« Last Edit: January 22, 2019, 07:42:51 PM by mikehende »

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Re: Can VC voice command this please
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2019, 03:24:29 PM »
I'm not sure I understand the question.  Are you trying to control MediaMonkey which is running on your Android?

In that case, VoxCommando cannot automate other apps that are running on your Android.  Maybe you could do this to some extent with an app like Tasker.

If that's not what you are asking then I don't know what you are looking for that is not already part of the standard MM configuration.

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Re: Can VC voice command this please
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2019, 04:09:07 PM »
Oh sorry if I wasn't clear. I wish to know if I can use VC on my Android to control MM on my pc with the same search and play function on MM?

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Re: Can VC voice command this please
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2019, 04:34:53 PM »
Yes. You can use VoxWav on your Android as a WiFi microphone for VoxCommando.

https://voxcommando.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=VoxWav

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Re: Can VC voice command this please
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2019, 07:41:31 PM »
Ok I will try this out tomorrow, so I will need to install VC on my desktop and Vox Wav on my Android? If yes is there a link to the exact download I will need for Mediamonkey please?
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Re: Can VC voice command this please
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2019, 08:00:54 PM »
You misunderstand me.  You cannot actually run VoxCommando on Android.

As I said, VoxWav acts as a microphone for VoxCommando.

So you will be using your same VoxCommando configuration that is already running on your PC.

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Re: Can VC voice command this please
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2019, 12:17:06 PM »
I am trying to follow the instructions from here to get started trying this out:

http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=53204

but the link in your post doesn;t work anymore, would have another link to that version please?

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the following link will take you to a version designed to make setup for MediaMonkey users as easy as possible. (5 minutes - no install required)

http://voxcommando.com/downloadMM.asp

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Re: Can VC voice command this please
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2019, 02:58:33 PM »
That post is 10 years old and on another forum.

You have been participating on this forum for two years so I just kind of assumed that you had already installed VoxCommando.  My bad I guess!  :biglaugh

VoxCommando can be (always) downloaded from here:

https://voxcommando.com/home/downloads/

Installation instructions: https://voxcommando.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Installation#Installing_VoxCommando

There is a standard configuration for MediaMonkey as we have for many other programs, and they are all included in the standard installation of VoxCommando.

Some extra installation info for MediaMonkey is here:
https://voxcommando.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Installation_MediaMonkey


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Re: Can VC voice command this please
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2019, 04:17:33 PM »
I haven't been active on this forum, A while back I was looking into possibly using VC with my DJ software but could not find any friend using my DJ software who wanted to help pay for the customization so I abandoned that idea.

MM is a pretty good software but main reason why I cannot make it my no.1 mp3 playback program is because of the volume normalization. Since I play music on heavy DJ equipment this is a problem with MM so I figure I can possibly use MM for when relaxing keeping the volume low so the volume fluctuation won't be as noticeable.

Reason for wanting to possibly use VC with VW is while relaxing I can use my phone to call up any tune in my MM library without needing to walk over to my pc playing MM, that's the gist of everything.

So I have VC installed and up to this step:

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On the main VoxCommando window, there is a menu at the top:

Click: "GenXML" >> "MediaMonkey" to scan your media library. (MediaMonkey must be running)
Open the [History Window] to view progress as your library is scanned and voice commands are updated.

I have MM, VC and the History window open but not seeing any scanning in both VC windows, is there anything else I should be doing for VC to scan my MM library please?


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Re: Can VC voice command this please
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2019, 05:29:47 PM »
No I don't think so.

But note that MediaMonkey may need to be run as administrator.

Also VoxCommando could have trouble if your library of songs is too large. Anything over 30000 songs can start to cause issues or at least make scanning take a long time.

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Re: Can VC voice command this please
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2019, 05:53:46 PM »
Your history window should look something like this:

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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2019, 05:59:11 PM »
You could also open the MM plugin and generate XML from there.  You may see more meaningful feedback from there.

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Re: Can VC voice command this please
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2019, 06:20:39 PM »
Also VoxCommando could have trouble if your library of songs is too large. Anything over 30000 songs can start to cause issues or at least make scanning take a long time.

Yes my MM library has 38k tracks and the History windows looks like your screenshot.

So what should I do next, simply wait until tomorrow to see if VC scans the library? If yes, how will know when the library has been scanned?

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Re: Can VC voice command this please
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2019, 07:00:56 PM »
No, it won't help to let it run overnight.

If you're available in the next few days, James can help you directly. You can PM jitterjames to set up a time to share screens in TeamViewer.

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Re: Can VC voice command this please
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2019, 07:04:41 PM »
That would be nice, will do as advised, thank you!

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Re: Can VC voice command this please
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2019, 09:06:08 AM »
Yes my MM library has 38k tracks and the History windows looks like your screenshot.


If your history window actually looks like the image that I posted then it worked and you can start issuing voice commands.

In any case I will still be available at our agreed upon time.

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Re: Can VC voice command this please
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2019, 09:15:20 AM »
ok, does that mean the entire library has been scanned?

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Re: Can VC voice command this please
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2019, 10:39:19 AM »
Thanks a million for the help James and sorry I was not prepared having a good mic for my pc because i never really talk into my pc for anything on a regular basis.

So I finished the speech recognition training then the pc started picking up my voice faster as I tried with different songs. It did not play the songs I had requested and then all of a sudden like it stopped working.

There are a few windows open, what exactly do I need to restart and have on screen whenever using VC please?

Also, is there a VC icon i can leave either on the desktop or system tray?

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Re: Can VC voice command this please
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2019, 10:40:37 AM »
You just need VoxCommando and MediaMonkey running.

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« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2019, 10:41:23 AM »
Also, is there a VC icon i can leave either on the desktop or system tray?

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Re: Can VC voice command this please
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2019, 10:57:38 AM »
Also, is there a VC icon i can leave either on the desktop or system tray?
https://www.google.ca/search?q=how+to+create+a+shortcut+in+windows

https://www.google.ca/search?q=how+to+add+a+program+to+the+taskbar+in+windows

VC appears in the notification area when running.  You can click it to hide the VC Window completely, and click it again to bring it back.

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« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2019, 11:04:50 AM »
I pinned it to the taskbar.

The program is not responding anymore, does it freeze and should simply be restarted whenever that happens?

I double click on "play song paradise" in the Emulate Speech box then see another small window open listing all tunes with the word paradise in it but it doesn't play anything in MM so this should not be voice related issues?

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Re: Can VC voice command this please
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2019, 11:58:55 AM »
If VC actually freezes then you should use Task Manager to close it and restart it.

When I tested playing a song by name on your system this morning, it did work as far as I could tell.

I think you might need to be running MM (MediaMonkey) as administrator for it to work.  You can test simpler commands like "music pause" first to see if it's talking to MM correctly.

Your system did seem to be struggling a bit in general though.

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Re: Can VC voice command this please
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2019, 12:22:20 PM »
Yeah, I restarted MM as Admin and restarted VC, works again and much better now thanks.

However I just ran into the same main issue as with Braina so this seems to be a universal issue maybe and not a VC issue.

With a folder running in MM, when I search for a tune and it starts playing, it will play every tune from the search over and over so the playlist or folder of music is stopped and doesn't continue, that is the main issue I was always facing.

To reiterate, I wish to have a folder of music or playlist running as normal. When I speak or type any tune in the library, I want to set that tune to either Play Now or play next after that tune is finished then the playlist continues as normal. If VC cannot do this then let me know so I won;t waste your time, thanks.



 

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« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2019, 12:36:57 PM »
Yes this is possible.

You just need to edit the voice command that plays songs and set an optional parameter for the action LoadBySQL to PlayNext.

https://voxcommando.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Plugin_MM#LoadBySQL

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« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2019, 12:46:11 PM »
GREAT but whoa, that's some very technical stuff, for me. I will see if I can figure it out, thanks.

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Re: Can VC voice command this please
« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2019, 12:53:58 PM »

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« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2019, 01:30:46 PM »
Cool, followed the instructions to the letter but when I speak or use the emulate option to 'play song paradise' or any tune, the windows appears and says 'playing song paradise' but the song does not play.

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« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2019, 02:22:48 PM »
Either you have done something wrong when editing the command or you are not running MediaMonkey in administrator mode.

I don't know what else to tell you since it works fine for me.

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« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2019, 02:30:58 PM »
No and No, I had double checked the instructions from the video.

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« Reply #30 on: January 25, 2019, 03:36:56 PM »
Triple checked the video instructions, restarted pc and both programs, same deal. Music Pause and Music play commands work fine plus recognizing the tune, only it's not playing the tune.


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Re: Can VC voice command this please
« Reply #31 on: January 25, 2019, 04:36:58 PM »
Maybe it's working correctly and you've just not noticed.  The song gets added to the playlist so that it will play next.  It doesn't start playing right away.  If you want to do that it's possible but right now it's just adding it to the playlist.

If you want it to play right away (interrupting the current song) then add an action MM.Next at the end of the macro.

https://voxcommando.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Plugin_MM#Next

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« Reply #32 on: January 25, 2019, 05:13:00 PM »
I just restarted the pc to check and now no voice commands :). So we will go as planned with the other pc.

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« Reply #33 on: January 27, 2019, 11:47:44 AM »
Maybe it's working correctly and you've just not noticed.  The song gets added to the playlist so that it will play next. It doesn't start playing right away. 

I tried again, this time the voice activation is working as normal but still the tune doesn;t play next or show in the Now Playing List.


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Re: Can VC voice command this please
« Reply #34 on: January 27, 2019, 01:23:10 PM »
Maybe you can upload a log file so we can see what is going on.  It's really not that complicated, and I've tested this and it works perfectly.

See:
https://voxcommando.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Log

and
https://voxcommando.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Getting_support


I think I made this video for you last year:

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« Reply #35 on: January 27, 2019, 01:28:54 PM »
Thank you, let me look into all of this in detail in the morning when I will be able to full work on it and will post back here.

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« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2019, 09:12:20 AM »
Sorry it took so long for me to get to this, I wish to do the log file but can you tell me how/where to show the Emulator window please? As mentioned when you did the config I did not get to see what you were doing as I was working on the mic issue.

Also James, may I ask why you can get these functions to work specifically with MM and not other mp3 players?

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« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2019, 09:25:18 AM »
I'm not sure what you mean by the emulator window but I guess maybe you mean tellvoxcommando which is on the file menu.

I recommend you only test with a microphone and actual voice commands to avoid confusion.

VoxCommando does work with quite a number of media programs. Obviously it's not realistic for it to work with all of them. In some cases it's simply not possible because the media program is not open to manipulation. In all cases it requires a great deal of work to make it happen.

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« Reply #38 on: January 30, 2019, 10:07:51 AM »
Thx for the explanation and yes it was the tellcommando window I was referring to.

Please see attached log file

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« Reply #39 on: January 30, 2019, 10:17:42 AM »
The reason we asked to see a log was because you said

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I tried again, this time the voice activation is working as normal but still the tune doesn;t play next or show in the Now Playing List.

But in the log file you attached it does not look like you attempted to issue even a single voice command so there is not much we can learn from it.

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« Reply #40 on: January 30, 2019, 10:23:36 AM »
ok to clarify. I am testing on the music we had worked on so I ran MM as admin and opened VC then tested with voice command Music Play and Music Pause then Play Song ..... but same issue as before with the song not playing next.

I had thought this testing is for the log file purpose? If no more troubleshooting can be done on this pc then I will proceed as planned with the other pc mentioned but will need to wait until tonight to get the password for that pc as wife is at work and she has the password for it.
« Last Edit: January 30, 2019, 10:27:13 AM by mikehende »

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« Reply #41 on: January 30, 2019, 10:32:16 AM »
Except that is not what you did.  The log shows VoxCommando loading all commands and then nothing more.  You did not issue any voice commands, or if you did you were speaking to a broken microphone or something.

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« Reply #42 on: January 30, 2019, 10:43:22 AM »
Then not understanding why it carried out the music pause and play commands?