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Mele F10 PRO compatible with VoxCommando?
« on: February 27, 2014, 06:22:01 PM »
Hi,

At this moment I'm using the Mele F10 wireless air mouse with my pc (Windows 7 Ultimate and XBMC)

Because someone told me the awesomeness of VoxCommando I installed this as well and everything is working great.
The only problem is finding a good microphone (wireless if possible).

Today I saw the MeLe F10 PRO wireless air mouse (with build in microphone) on the internet.
It is actually the same device as the MeLe F10 but has some more features.

My question is, if VoxCommando will accept the voice command I will send by using the microphone of the MeLe F10 PRO?

link to the product: http://dx.com/p/mele-f10-pro-2-4ghz-wireless-air-mouse-keyboard-remote-control-voice-mic-225844#.Uw-5vdRdUak

If someone knows if this works or not, it would help me a lot.

Thank you in advance.

William

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Re: Mele F10 PRO compatible with VoxCommando?
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2014, 06:29:24 PM »
It will probably "work" but I don't know if it will "work well".  :biglaugh

Until someone actually tries it, it is hard to know.  I am having trouble finding any specs for the microphone.  If it is bluetooth then it will probably not work well with VC1, but may work OK with VC2.

It says it uses 2.7 GHz so if that applies to the mic as well, and they aren't trying to squeeze the bandwidth down too low on the audio transmission then it could potentially work OK, although given the feature set and the price, I can only assume that the actual microphone pickup is a super cheap one.

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Re: Mele F10 PRO compatible with VoxCommando?
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2014, 09:19:08 AM »
Hi James,

Thank you for the quick reply.

Yes it is not very expensive. When you buy it somewhere in Europe it will cost a lot more but yeah, that's the point of DealExtreme = cheap.
I'm very satisfied of the MeLe F10. But because now I have the VoxCommando setup ready, it would be nice to use this device (Pro version) to send the actual commands.

William

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Re: Mele F10 PRO compatible with VoxCommando?
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2014, 09:28:50 AM »
I posted a question to all the Amazon customers who previously posted reviews of the Mele F10 Pro.

One has responded to say that he will try testing the Mele's microphone with voice recognition. I don't know how soon that will happen, but if I hear back from him I'll report his response here.

There are also no guarantees he will test it with the Windows speech recognition engine or VC, although I did say that this was what I was interested in.
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Re: Mele F10 PRO compatible with VoxCommando?
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2014, 09:41:00 AM »
If you do decide to try it out we would be very pleased to hear your thoughts on it.

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Re: Mele F10 PRO compatible with VoxCommando?
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2014, 11:45:35 AM »
I posted a question to all the Amazon customers who previously posted reviews of the Mele F10 Pro.

One has responded to say that he will try testing the Mele's microphone with voice recognition. I don't know how soon that will happen, but if I hear back from him I'll report his response here.

There are also no guarantees he will test it with the Windows speech recognition engine or VC, although I did say that this was what I was interested in.

Thank you very much for your help and support.

If you don't receive any news within 2 weeks. i'm going to buy it on DealExtreme and afterwords I will post my findings on this Forum.

ps: I love it that this forum is really alive.

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Re: Mele F10 PRO compatible with VoxCommando?
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2014, 05:55:11 AM »
if I hear back from him I'll report his response here.

Hi Nime5ter,

Do you already have some information?

Thank you in advance.

William

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Re: Mele F10 PRO compatible with VoxCommando?
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2014, 08:27:54 AM »
Hello William,

Unfortunately, the reviewer who told me he'd be willing to test the voice recognition has not responded since then.

Someone else asked yesterday whether the microphone works well for Skype. Maybe that will inspire someone to respond to both questions, but I'm not sure if it's worth holding our breaths for that.

Have you tried asking on forums such as the XBMC forum? http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=169117

One fellow mentioned in this linked thread that he intended to try the Mele Pro as mic for voice recognition, but again he didn't report back. I think it would be worth posing your question there.
« Last Edit: March 07, 2014, 08:38:35 AM by nime5ter »
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Re: Mele F10 PRO compatible with VoxCommando?
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2014, 04:00:01 PM »
I just happened upon a user comment about the Q7 air mouse, in response to a post/review about the Mele F10 Pro.

User "Kriss" claims to have had good success using the Q7 with VC: http://www.minimachines.net/actu/la-telecommande-mele-f10-pro-en-video-8909

Apparently this person is referring to this Q7 remote: http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Q7-2-4G-wireless-connection-with-mic-white-312486.html
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Re: Mele F10 PRO compatible with VoxCommando?
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2014, 04:09:47 PM »
I just happened upon a user comment about the Q7 air mouse, in response to a post/review about the Mele F10 Pro.

User "Kriss" claims to have had good success using the Q7 with VC: http://www.minimachines.net/actu/la-telecommande-mele-f10-pro-en-video-8909

Apparently this person is referring to this Q7 remote: http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Q7-2-4G-wireless-connection-with-mic-white-312486.html

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Re: Mele F10 PRO compatible with VoxCommando?
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2014, 04:24:40 PM »
Well, if you decide to pick one up, I look forward to your review.

~ £30, apparently.

Surprises me that no one has provided feedback yet on any of the supposedly voice-capable air remotes.
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Re: Mele F10 PRO compatible with VoxCommando?
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2014, 05:54:02 PM »
I have this remote, have had it for a while actually, but only recently obtained Voxcommando.

i dont usually do reviews but i will tell you what i know so far and will try out suggestions and answer questions.

first off i am using windows 8 XBMC configuration. I installed no drivers, it worked out of the box.

this is an excellent air mouse/keyboard for any media center, it just also happens to have a built in mic.
there are two buttons on the bottom with phone logos on them that i assumed would start/stop the mic, but it seems to always be on.
the battery life on this thing is unheard of, as i said i have had it for some months, but have only charged it twice.
i really only use it for keyboard windows operations when performing maintenance on windows.

it is obviously not as good as a head set, and i find i have to have the confidence set to 60. It understands me fine, just confidence never shows as over 75 on the screen.
i am looking for a way to incorporate the "ducking" feature that the amulet remote does so i wont have to hold it to my lips.

ill answer your questions if i can.

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Re: Mele F10 PRO compatible with VoxCommando?
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2014, 11:09:48 PM »
I have this remote, have had it for a while actually, but only recently obtained Voxcommando.

Thanks for piping up, it's appreciated. A lot of folks here have been curious about using air mics with VC and I've been hoping we'd get some first-hand experiences for a while now.

I guess my first question is: is your device the Mele F10 Pro or the Q7 air mouse that I mentioned later on in this thread?

wrt ducking, if you haven't tried it yet, Eventghost should meet your needs.
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Re: Mele F10 PRO compatible with VoxCommando?
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2014, 10:06:59 AM »
... by Eventghost, I was thinking you could use a button on the remote to do the ducking, though obviously it would be better if one could also figure out a way to turn the remote's mic on and off.

So far, this is the major advantage with the Amulet (and VoxWav for Android) over "open air" mic solutions--that the mic is on when tilted up and off when not, along with being able to trigger events in VC to softmute volume.
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Re: Mele F10 PRO compatible with VoxCommando?
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2014, 09:06:45 AM »
Sorry nime5ter for the delay, business travel.

I have the melef10 pro. I agree completely with your statement about the amulet remote being superior, but with the f10 being an excellent air mouse i cant get rid of it for windows purposes, and i dont want ANOTHER remote.

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Re: Mele F10 PRO compatible with VoxCommando?
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2014, 09:55:21 AM »
Absolutely. Just say no to redundant gadgetry. (Maybe I'm in a minority on that one.)

If you're not already using Eventghost, then you might want to give VC's Hook plugin a whirl: http://voxcommando.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Plugin_Hook. Use custom key presses to trigger VC.On and VC.Off events.

Actually, with a whole keyboard at your fingertips, I imagine you could do quite a lot with the Hook plugin.

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Re: Mele F10 PRO compatible with VoxCommando?
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2014, 05:50:22 AM »
Just found one of these at my mates house. I immediately hit up Amazon. 16 quid! Total bargain regardless of the mic functionality.

It will be made use of whatever the case, but if the mic works well I can see it could be awesome for Skype as well as Vox.

Eventghost for ducking will work well. My mate is already using Eventghost with it to do a couple simple things in XBMC.

Looking forward to it arriving!

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Re: Mele F10 PRO compatible with VoxCommando?
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2014, 07:11:58 PM »
Plugged this in today.

I am stunned. 97% accuracy every time and 0 delay.

Everybody should get one of these. If it wasn't for the fact I like speaking to Alexander without picking anything up I would honestly use this as my primary mic.

This will definitely come in handy when me and Neesha get our own place. I still can't get over the price for such a capable device.

Hope you are all well. I shall do a youtube video to demonstrate it soon.

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Re: Mele F10 PRO compatible with VoxCommando?
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2014, 11:35:02 PM »
Mr. Wolf- how do you activate the mic on the F10 Pro? Is it a push-and-hold-to-talk situation, or do you press a button to un-mute the mic and leave it open until you're done talking? Can the mic be left open for prolonged periods of time?  I'm interested in this device for myself potentially, so I'd be excited to hear more about how it works...

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Re: Mele F10 PRO compatible with VoxCommando?
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2014, 06:31:03 AM »
Hello mate, I need more testing with it.  I keep meaning to getting around to plugging it back in.

It seemed as though the mic was always on once you'd pressed the button, but I think Windows was putting it to sleep after a while and then I was struggling to get it to respond again.  I need to have a play with it. Might take a look later if I get everything done today that I'm hoping.

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Re: Mele F10 PRO compatible with VoxCommando?
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2014, 07:04:25 AM »
Hi Paul, if you have problems to wake up the mic, you can test the reinitialize mic timer setting in the VC Options ->Advanced tab. If the "Mele F10 PRO" has no tilt function like the amulet remote and the mic is always on, you can use the "Sound.MicMute" and "Sound.MicUnmute" action associated with a keyboard button to mute and unmute the mic.

Sorry I forgot to say that you can use the hook plugin to associate a keyboard button by creating a event.   ;)
So when you press a specific button which is set in the hook plugin it will create a event which trigger the mute/unmute mic function.
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« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2014, 07:46:10 PM »
Nice one Kalle :)

Didn't get round to playing with it tonight.  I shall hopefully get round to it soon, either way it is worth its price just for the remote.

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Re: Mele F10 PRO compatible with VoxCommando?
« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2014, 07:33:48 AM »
I've testet the unmute/mute function with the VoxCommando hook-plugin and it works perfect.
How it works in my example:
When I press the "zirkumflex" button on the keyboard, VC generate the event "Hook.Oem5" and unmute the mic input to speak my command. When I release the button it generate the event "Hook.Oem5.Up" which mute the mic input.

Here the description:

1. enable the hook plugin in VC (VC Option menu -> plugins tab -> set checkmark at the hook plugin and restart VC to save the settings)
2. open the hook plugin and set a checkmark at "Key Hook Enabled", "Generate Named Events", "Specific Keys" and "Log Keys"
3. press for my example the "zirkumflex" button (see attached picture) on your keyboard (if everthing setting up correct, it will show you "Oem5" in the plugin  log-window at the left)
4. select in the log-window the Oem5 entry and then click on "Add Selected". After that, you will see the "Oem5" on the right window in the plugin.
5. as next unmark the "Log Keys" in the plugin and click on "Save all" to store your settings and close the plugin.

6. insert the following commandgroup code in your VC commandtree

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-16"?>
<!--VoxCommando 2.1.0.3-->
<commandGroup open="True" name="automute mic with hook plugin" enabled="True" prefix="" priority="0" requiredProcess="" description="">
  <command id="897" name="automute mic" enabled="true" alwaysOn="False" confirm="False" requiredConfidence="0" loop="False" loopDelay="0" loopMax="0" description="">
    <if ifBlockDisabled="False" ifNot="False">
      <ifType>(A)==(B)</ifType>
      <ifParams>{LastEvent}&amp;&amp;Hook.Oem5</ifParams>
      <then>
        <action>
          <cmdType>Sound.MicUnmute</cmdType>
          <params />
          <cmdRepeat>1</cmdRepeat>
        </action>
      </then>
      <else />
    </if>
    <if ifBlockDisabled="False" ifNot="False">
      <ifType>(A)==(B)</ifType>
      <ifParams>{LastEvent}&amp;&amp;Hook.Oem5.Up</ifParams>
      <then>
        <action>
          <cmdType>Sound.MicMute</cmdType>
          <params />
          <cmdRepeat>1</cmdRepeat>
        </action>
      </then>
      <else />
    </if>
    <event>Hook.Oem5*</event>
  </command>
</commandGroup>

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Re: Mele F10 PRO compatible with VoxCommando?
« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2014, 09:40:19 AM »
I just noticed that Paul (aka Mr. Wolf) posted a video demo for the Mele on YouTube back in October. Looks promising.

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