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There's no LastTTS variable but you can use the action: TTS.GetLastText

Thanks for the quick help nime5ter, is there anyway to get that action to work at the end of a scraped url, I have tried it and it doesn't insert the text.

I know the TTS.GetLastText can be used within vox, but what I am doing is having the TTS added to the end of a scraped url for my device and then tasker is reading it.

It is so I can have TTS feedback from vox when on 3g and away from home and it is a quick simple way to do it, so need to find a way for the last TTS vox says to be added to the end of my scraped url.

All the other variables work fine for being spoken, so I just need to find one that shows the last text vox ran from tts speak since it will vary.

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Hi Guys,

Just a quick question, does anyone know the variable for the last TTS thing vox said, I can find all the variables for it to tell me the last thing I said, the last event it ran etc, but there doesn't seem to be one in the list to add the last Text To Speech vox said to me.

So if anyone can drop me the variable for doing just that, would really appreciate it.

The way I am using it is having the last TTS Speak variable added at the end of a scraped url.

PegLegTV any ideas?

Thanks.
Sim  8)

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Bug Reports / Re: looping with events
« on: February 06, 2016, 07:53:46 PM »
Hi PegLegTV,

I am glad to see you posted this as I was about to post something myself similar, I have been trying to set tasker up to send a command to vox using the tasker UDP SENDER triggered by location so when I leave home tasker sends a command via VC.TellVox command.

I have noticed that with TTS also turned on to speak the alarm is activated I gEt a viscious looping that makes vox say every TTS separated by | over and over. Vox then loops saying the alarm armed TTS message until it crashes.

I have tried all sorts of variations to get commands from tasker to vox and the only one that works is when I have VC.TellVox in the command builder and the VC.TellVox command in the UDP sender for tasker. I have tried removing the TTS speak command from command builder and just use VC.TellVox but it then doesn't do anything.

If I only have VCTellVox it in tasker it doesn't trigger the command action on vox.

I have tried using VC.TriggerEvent also and that doesn't work for triggering vox to perform the command action when sent from tasker.

I will have a go at posting my command tree shortly.

If you have any suggestions for how I can send a command from tasker to vox it would be appreciated, I just need to send enable alarm to vox from tasker.

I have followed the wiki and experimented but the loopingbefore crashing is where I am at right now.

Cheers.
Sim  8)

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So what steps would you suggest to get the vox commando voice feedback sent to vox wav pro using eventghost, tasker and auto remote?

Lets see if we can get this working for 3g connected voice feedback.

Cheers.
Sim  8)

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I am referring to everything you said in your original post and in your reply to nime5ter.

From what you say it seems that you are looking for something that is fast and free and doesn't require any effort to set up.  You don't want to use Tasker, you don't want to use a Dynamic DNS service, and you don't want to use a VPN.

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I don't know what this magical "bridge" is that you are talking about but the closest you can come to a bridge AFAIK is a "tunnel" which is basically what a VPN gives you.  You could just as easily call it a bridge.  It makes it seem as though your device is on the same network as VoxCommando.

No matter what you do if you want a fast connection you are going to need to connect directly to your home LAN.  That means using a Dynamic DNS service.  There used to be good free options for Dynamic DNS.  I don't know if there still are but the paid ones are not so expensive and have other benefits.

Already use a DNS service, getting commands to vox is not the issue, it's the output back.

Why don't you want to use Tasker?  No one suggested using Auto Voice so the fact that you don't like it is not really relevant to this discussion.  Nime5ter was suggesting that you use AutoRemote and Tasker to get messages from VC to your phone.

Thanks for putting some meat in the reply, your previous one never gave anything, now you couldn't be more wrong in your assumptions "it seems that you are looking for something that is fast and free and doesn't require any effort to set up", "you don't want to use a Dynamic DNS service, and you don't want to use a VPN"

I already use a DNS service and have for years, they are great for delivering voice to vox but as you stated in one of your previous replies on here:

Re: Using Tasker with VoxCommando   

« Reply #38 on: April 16, 2015, 07:05:20 PM »

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I think the only way to really use VoxWav is to set up a VPN.  I have tried it and it worked fine.  If you have a router that supports VPN it is pretty straightforward to set up.  Your phone will act as though it is on your local network.

With just using DynDNS and port forwarding You can send voice data to VoxCommando because that is done over TCP but all other communication between the two programs is done through UDP which doesn't normally traverse WAN connections.

When I created VoxWav I really didn't think much about making it work from remote locations.

So a DNS service doesn't work for getting the voice feedback, I tried a vpn ages ago after reading the above reply and it didn't work either, that is why I asked about whether a bridge was possible to connect vox wav from outside the LAN.

EXAMPLE OF A BRIDGE APP I ALREADY USE
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=us.originally.tasker

As an example I use the broadlink tasker plugin, it works fine within my LAN, but to connect to my broadlink from outside the house I have it installed on another android that remains home and turn on the BRIDGE function within the plugin for 3g/4g connecting, this allows me to connect to my home network over 3g/4g.

So even when I am out any commands I send through the broadlink app in tasker somehow connect it to my home network.

I don't have a problem paying for things, I as many here would happily pay for an updated vox wav or bridging app if it allowed 3g/4g connectivity without all the hoop jumping of auto remote or vpn services, I would rather something simple than loads of effort that requires me becoming a TechSpert spending hours learning new stuff to make something work.

If you responded in a way with some feedback on whether the bridge idea is feasible or gave some suggestions on it instead of a one line reply that was completely vague, I would already be looking for a developer to build it or this community could rally to fund it and have your tech mastery build it into vox wav because in the end it really only comes down to money and time and whether you see the point in adding 3g/4g to it based on demand.

That I get and understand, but like I say myself and others wouldn't have a problem paying for the feature to be added since although you may not have considered connecting from outside a home network when you designed things, everyone wants to be able to be able to use it now as they get more creative with their vox uses.

It is however a feature I would happily pay a subscription payment to enjoy the benefit of using.

You've got a great software with a cool app, both easy to use, the extra steps of jumping through vpn, tasker, auto remote to connect from outside home messes up what is a very simple process for the non techies of the world to be able to get into home automation.

I read your reply to the thread nimester posted here where you said:

http://voxcommando.com/forum/index.php?topic=1541.msg13560#msg13560

"The problem you will face when using autoremote is that you will need to create special actions for each command that you want to send TTS to your phone.  There is no way to "redirect" the existing TTS actions to a new action"

With how many commands I have it doesn't sound like tasker is the best fit based on that reply and how many actions would need to be created.

I don't want vox to have to send to tasker to get voice output from vox wav or for it to skip vox wav and come through tasker, that is just plain messy.

It would mean a car computer running android, TV stick and smart watch both having to run tasker and autoremote.

All of the above is really irrelevant now though, the bottom line is what would you want us as a community to pay to have you get 3g/4g connectivity with audio coming from vox wav added and mic always on mode, so the moment vox wav pro is opened the mic is on, instead of having to select it from the app?

Vox and vox wav pro are two of my best software purchases, more people should know about them both and if you get vox on www.jvzoo.com for sale not only would it get the leverage of people who love promoting on there, everyone here who wants to could promote it.

The more people behind it using it the more features and updates the app will get, although the 4g connection and always on mic are the only ones that are needed.

If you do get vox on the site above for sale and offer a 50% commission, drop me the sign up link and will happily promote it.


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Hi James, care to elaborate on that, in what way, a bridge isn't possible, back and fourth command and feedback from vox over 3g/4g with an android bridge device isn't realistic, your answer is very vague, it could be referring to my reply to nime5ter or the original message, so need clarification.

Cheers.
Sim  8)

Your expectations are simply not realistic.

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Hi nime5ter,

From what I can tell from the link that process would require creating lots of different events for auto remote to send and it isn't a very fast process to implement for non techies.

I would also like to skip tasker out of the process, while I do use it for certain things, anything I have tried it for using Auto Voice requires the mic to be left open which has a beep ever few seconds which then requires me to turn off all media audio.

I really need a straight app solution that would allow me to just use vox wav as normal and have two way communication over 3g/4g.

The whole scraping etc for TTS sending back to my mobile would also slow down the feedback from vox, I want to keep it fast and smooth.

Thanks for the input though.
Sim

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Hi James,

I know a number of people have asked the question of how they can connect to vox from outside the home and it is possible to send commands to vox since that is over TCP but the issue has always been getting TTS audio back since that is over UDP... All alien terms to us non techies though, but any bridge device in the pipe lines?

Even a device we install on an android device we leave at home that allows us to connect to vox on the home network or get the voice feedback from vox sent back to us over 3g/4g, so if in the car with vox wav pro on we could tell the heating to come on and get the audio feedback from vox telling us it was just turned on.

Or for those of us who have set up vox to a security system, if any camera's caught motion we could get audio notification from vox over 3g/4g on our mobile in real time.

I know from what you said below "When I created VoxWav I really didn't think much about making it work from remote locations" when you made vox, so would a bridge be a quick and easy integration to make it possible for two way communication over 3g/4g?

VPNs usually require a subscription for a fixed login and aren't really an easy or good fit for staying connected from outside home, with a car computer, smart watch with a tiny screen, tv stick away from home or mobile it would require logging in to a vpn each time to use vox wav pro and disconnecting after.

Some VPNs auto disconnect once a signal drops and change login info after, so a bridge seems like an idea, would one be possible with vox wav as it is?  8)

Re: Using Tasker with VoxCommando

« Reply #38 on: April 16, 2015, 07:05:20 PM »

Quote

I think the only way to really use VoxWav is to set up a VPN.  I have tried it and it worked fine.  If you have a router that supports VPN it is pretty straightforward to set up.  Your phone will act as though it is on your local network.

With just using DynDNS and port forwarding You can send voice data to VoxCommando because that is done over TCP but all other communication between the two programs is done through UDP which doesn't normally traverse WAN connections.

When I created VoxWav I really didn't think much about making it work from remote locations.

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Hi Kalle, thanks for the feedback, I went for a windows 8 Minix with XBMC built in after seeing Pauls video on the windows stick, back then some windows sticks only came with a demo version of windows 8, so the software would cost as much as the stick.

I was concerned about the stick device overheating for the windows 8 stick since they don't have fans in them and being plugged in 24/7 would of definitely lead to some overheating.

As PegLegTV says its best to get a box over a stick, the idea of the sticks intrigued me since its light weight and can either just take it and put in another room or another house, hotel or anywhere while travelling.

James it is a shame about the android issues not supporting external devices for mic, I've searched high and low and they just don't allow it, maybe the marshmellow update for android 6.0 will bring it but doubt it.



I made myself a video doorbell out of an old smartphone and put the Bluetooth speaker outside linked to it, so now I can see who is at the door from my smartphone, smart watch phone and the android stick, I can send audio to them through the BT speaker but the audio from mic only comes through the phone mic which is inside the house.

If it wasn't for the silly mic issue it would be the perfect way for everyone to have a video door monitor made from the cheapest of smart phones most people have laying around.

My actual video doorbell I purchase cost me nearly $300 and it doesn't allow on demand viewing, so couldn't link it into my security system with iSpy and Vox, that's why I turned an old mobile into a video doorbell.

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Hi Everyone,

I want to show you all something and you can use the idea yourself to save on your electric and prevent your smart home devices like your smart phone, smart watch and tablets from over charging. I put this in place to prevent my devices overcharging using Tasker for 3 reasons.
    • Save on electric bills from power charging devices when they are fully charged.
    • Increase battery life of devices, since a fully charged device will constantly discharge and shorten the battery life.
    • Remove the risk of a battery exploding due to overheating from overcharging.
You can also voice control your plug sockets when you have your plugs linked up to vox, you can just say name of the plug like mircrowave plug, washing machine, dryer on or off.

If you have a kettle linked up to your smart plug socket you can even leave the kettle button pressed on and set vox to turn it on at a set time in the morning or use voice control with voxwav to say kettle on or make me a tea or coffee.


QUICK DEMO OF VOICE CONTROL VOX WITH THE SMART PHONE WATCH

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Hi Guys and Girls,

Has anyone tried installing VoxWav Pro on an Android TV stick yet? There are android sticks that go straight into the HDMI port of the TV and give full access to an android interface with the Play Store on, since the Android Stick runs Android Kit Katt, Vox Wav pro should be able to be downloaded and ran from it easily.

This means the home TV could be used as a wifi mic to control vox which is on the main PC. A few challenges with the idea present themselves, so any input is appreciated.

James, Kalle, what would need to be selected in VoxWav Pro as the Mic Source for the android TV device, since a USB mic would need to be used for audio input?

If one can be selected then it will work fine for controlling vox running on the PC in the office or another room, an android box could be in each TV in the house.

Now the android device also has Kodi pre installed, so is there a way to run more than one version of kodi from one instance of vox (voice control actions) or would a second vox need to be running?

Example I have kodi on the computer with vox which I control with voice commands, but if I have kodi on the android TV device is there a way to control it from the same vox on the PC?

The last part of the puzzle for voice control in rooms with an android box is the mic being in ON mode all the time. Since the android TV device is WIFI connected there will be times it drops the connection and disconnects causing the ON mode for mic to need setting up again.

Any tweeks coming James where the ON status can be hard set through options within VoxWav Pro so even if wifi drops or when the VoxWav App is opened the Mic is ON?

If anyone here has tried VoxWav Pro with an android box let me know how you got on with it, I will be getting one and just checking if anyone else has been down this path yet.

Cheers.
Sim  8)

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VoxWav Free and VoxWav Pro / Re: Voxwav pro prefix not working
« on: November 17, 2015, 08:07:36 PM »
As an update James I've noticed prefix mode is failing on some android devices when set, at the moment I am testing it on Android Kit Katt 4.4.2 and it is failing, commands issued are getting through without the prefix.

Is there a way to set voxwav pro to always start in voice activation mode, one thing that I noticed is that when vox is off any modes set like tilt or voice hands free mode disconnect requiring them to be selected again by opening the app which may be running in the background.

So if I have my mobile set to open voxwav pro with tasker when my screen is on, I would like it to be pre set to always enter listen mode and not have to select ON. Sometimes wifi connection drops and if I can't set it to listen automatically I have to open the app to select listen ON again.

Cheers in advance for any tips you can give to set voxwav pro to auto start in listen mode for voice commands once opened.
 8)

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Hi James and Kalle, the broadlink is like an IR and RF recorder, it will learn any code direct from a remote or it has a database within the app of thousands of codes, you only usually need point a remote at it and hit power on and it fills in buttons for most devices, fans, dvds, tvs.

Once the codes are learned by it you can use the app on a mobile or smart watch to turn any RF or IR device within range on and off. I have two broadlinks one in the office upstairs and one in the front room, I have two meremly for the IR to control the TVs.

The RF signal from the broadlink reaches the whole house so it controls the lights, remote plug sockets and shuts the whole house down when I go out by turning off all devices.

So before I used the remote plug method of turning off the TV it would turn the TV on if it was already off.

Sim
 8)


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Hi Kalle,

I am using my broadlink rm pro to send the signals to the TV and so it just learns the on and off code from the remote which is the same button. It is the same for most Samsung TVs I have noticed, I guess the thinking behind it being people either want the TV on or off so use the same code to toggle modes. :-(

That is a big problem for me since the TV will respond anytime the remote power signal is sent, so if the house auto shuts down and turns everything off and the TV is already off, then the TV turns on, not great in the middle of the night if the sound bar and TV have been left turned up lol.

My work around for this is to use a remote plug socket to turn the TV on and off.

When the remote plug goes on as long as the TV has been powered up previously it will turn the TV on and when the plug gets turned off it turns the TV off, also saves on wasted vampire energy being sucked by standby mode.

Sim
 8)

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Hi Vangelis,

Thanks for the suggestions, appreciated, every signal can be sniffed with HA appliances but we are decades away from a future where local house thieves are hacker savvy with equipment set up on streets to monitor entire streets smart appliances sending their Bluetooth, zigbee, zwave signals through the air. :biglaugh

The August smart door lock has the Bluetooth unlock feature and sells for around £228 / $350, so it is pretty cool to be able to make a Bluetooth doorlock for under £50/$76. Below is a quick demo of my smart watch unlocking the door, the smart watch only cost £10/$15.

So now as I walk up to the door it unlocks and turns on the TV, DVD, sound bar. When I leave the room to go make a tea or something it locks the door and turns the TV off into standby until I come back.

The only annoying thing is my Samsung TV has the same IR code for off as on, so if the connection drops and reconnects it turns the TV off.


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