VoxCommando
Help and Support (Using VoxCommando) => MediaPortal => Topic started by: jitterjames on October 12, 2011, 11:55:11 PM
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Here is the first official release of our MediaPortal Configuration. Many thanks to Shukuyen for all his help, adding feature to WifiRemote to make this possible.
We still have a long way to go, but this is a big step forward.
edit: you will get a popup saying "readme.txt" is missing. Don't worry about that. :)
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Here's the *unofficial* new version of the wifiremote plugin. Unzip and place the .dll in the folder (or equivalent for your system):
C:\Program Files\Team MediaPortal\MediaPortal\plugins\process
I'm not sure if you need to install the older version of the plugin first, but it won't hurt to do that to be safe.
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A few things you need to do to set up.
1) when you first run VoxCommando, go to the plugins tab
- select MPscan (this is a GenXML plugin for MediaPortal)
- set your MediaPortal database paths if necessary. VC needs to read these files to Generate Payloads
- leave the "Export XML to folder" as it is: .\MpPayloads
- click "Save Options"
- click "Scan and Generate"
you should now have a subfolder called "MpPayloads" that contains a bunch of xml files. Go look inside them if you want.
- click "File" >> "Build Missing Grammars"
all done with VoxCommando for now. You can start using it, except a few notes about Moving Pictures and Tv-Series in the next post...
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Oh and you need to set your connection settings in the two plugins to match
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If you want to be able to jump to different view in MediaPortal's Moving Pictures plugin then do the following:
- Open the configuration for the Moving Pictures plugin
- Go to the "GUI Settings" tab
- Make sure that "Organize Movies by Category" is checked
- To edit the categories or see a list of their names, click "Define Movie Categories"
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Finally,
- Go to the MediaPortal plugin settings for the MP-TV Series plugin
- Go to the "Views / Filters" tab
- Click the "Add" button
- Type the word "Vox" into the field (without the "quotes")
- Click OK
This is a temporary thing. We manipulate this "Vox" view "behind the scenes" to trick the MP-TV series to jump to the TV shows we ask for.
That is ALL FOR NOW!
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Here's the *unofficial* new version of the wifiremote plugin. Unzip and place the .dll in the folder (or equivalent for your system):
C:\Program Files\Team MediaPortal\MediaPortal\plugins\process
I'm not sure if you need to install the older version of the plugin first, but it won't hurt to do that to be safe.
The installer also copies a WifiRemote.xml keymap file to your MediaPortal\defaults\InputDeviceMappings folder (or InputDeviceMappings\defaults on older MP versions). Without that file commands like left, right, up, down, ok ... will not work.
I will release a new version of WifiRemote tomorrow or on the weekend containing all the changes needed to make this work. It will be Wifiremote version 0.5, keep an eye open for it on our Google Code Page (http://code.google.com/p/wifiremote/downloads/list), the MediaPortal download site (http://www.team-mediaportal.com/extensions/input-output/wifiremote) or in your MediaPortal Extension Installer software.
And now I gotta go install voxcommando and try that sweet thing out :-D
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It doesn't work for me, but I am no sure if that is a more general problem.
After install I get the attached error. Also clicking on some menu options crashes the application. Also in the history there is a null pointer exception.
This goes away after I active the MP plugins and "build missing grammars". But then none of my commands is recognized. I guess this is due to me having a German Windows 7 Professional with only the German speech recognition and I found no way to install the English package :-/
Any ideas?
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It doesn't work for me, but I am no sure if that is a more general problem.
After install I get the attached error. Also clicking on some menu options crashes the application. Also in the history there is a null pointer exception.
This goes away after I active the MP plugins and "build missing grammars". But then none of my commands is recognized. I guess this is due to me having a German Windows 7 Professional with only the German speech recognition and I found no way to install the English package :-/
Any ideas?
Hi if you have Windows 7 Ultimate you can install language pack with Windows update.
Otherwise, take a look here: http://voxcommando.com/forum/index.php?topic=557.msg3859#msg3859
Kalle
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you should be able to go into options and set the language to german. It won't work very well after that though unless you edit the commands to use german phrases.
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Hi jitterjames,
I've just registered so I can say thank you to you and Shukuyen for your work on this!!!
I installed the trial yesterday and love it!!! Will be purchasing a license once I've finished sending this message :).
Looking forward to seeing further developments in the future.
Thanks again and kind regards,
Mick.
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thanks wo0zy. welcome to the community.
I take it that you're using mediaportal? I haven't paid much attention to this lately since it didn't seem like anyone was interested.
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Hi James,
Yes, I'm using it with MediaPortal but I will also be testing with WMC when I get.
I hadn't heard of Vox Commando (sorry :o) until I saw the link to here in Shukuyen's post on the MediaPortal forum about the release of WiFi Remote 0.5.
Doing a search on the MP forum reveals that there is a short thread about it in the German section but no English thread. I wonder if starting one would help raise awareness? I might try and see.
I hope the lack of interest so far doesn't put you off developing it further but I can understand how it might :(.
Anyway, I've purchased now on the strength of the existing MP functionality and for the amount of fun I can have experimenting with the other great features.
Thanks for the warm welcome. Will hopefully speak to you again soon.
Cheers,
Mick.
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thanks for your support and interest.
if you have any specific issues that you need help with let me know.
if you can drum up some interest from other mediaPortal users that would be great.
::wave
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anyone reading this please go to the MP TV series site and click the star to vote for this update to the plugin which will allow better control from VoxCommando
http://code.google.com/p/mptvseries/issues/detail?id=526&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Priority%20Stars%20Milestone%20Owner%20Summary
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I want to test it in Mediaportal, especially if it can understand russian language. But I can't start voxcommando.exe anymore. At first time I choose xbmc plugin without xbmc itself and now nothing happens if i click exe file. How could I reinstall voxcommando or clear this settings?
btw, is there any system requirements? Is XP OK for tests?
And why don't you make thread on MP forum? It was hard for me to find out that wifiremote can access voice commands. I did this after finishing my own speech recognition plugin baased on google voice search api.
Thanks.
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Hi edalex.
Thanks for your interest in VoxCommando.
VoxCommando can only use the speech recognition engines supported by windows speech recognition. Russian is not one of them, but you could still use another language for the engine and try to train it to understand Russian words.
http://voxcommando.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Languages
VoxCommando does not work on XP, you need Vista or Windows 7.
I have not started a thread on the mediaportal forum because support for mediaportal is not finished and I have not had time to work on it, with too many other things to work on.
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Hi
I've just come across VoxCommando in the WifiRemote thread of the MediaPortal forum and was keen to give it a go but I'm not having any luck :-\ I have installed WifiRemote (V 0.5) & VC 0912 MediaPortal test but as per the following screenshot nothing is showing in the "Plugins" tab :-\ Note: I'm running MP 1.2.2 - W7 - English.
Cheers
Bleazle
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the plugins tab on the main window shows installed and enabled plugins only.
To enable a plugin open VC Options, go to the plugins tab there, and place a checkmark next to it the plugins you want to use, then save and restart. Then they will appear in the plugin tab of the main window. You should enable MpWifiRemote and MpScan
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I just read your post again. If you are using "VC 0912 MediaPortal test" the plugin should already be enabled. Make sure you have installed in a non-protected folder, or disable uac. Don't try to install it into program files unless you are admin and have UAC disabled. You are best to create a folder like c:\voxcommando and install it there.
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The Mp plugins didnt apear in the plugins tab of my version of VC mediaportal test either, I had to go to the plugins section from the options menu, both the MP plugins were in that list and both checked, I un checked them, re checked them and saved, they then both appeared under the plugins tab.
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The Mp plugins didnt apear in the plugins tab of my version of VC mediaportal test either, I had to go to the plugins section from the options menu, both the MP plugins were in that list and both checked, I un checked them, re checked them and saved, they then both appeared under the plugins tab.
Do you have restart VC?
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the plugins tab on the main window shows installed and enabled plugins only.
To enable a plugin open VC Options, go to the plugins tab there, and place a checkmark next to it the plugins you want to use, then save and restart. Then they will appear in the plugin tab of the main window. You should enable MpWifiRemote and MpScan
Thanks! Could you add something like this to the top of your 3rd post in this thread? - that was the "missing step" for me :-\ :
To enable plugins: Select "Options" -> Open options -> Plugins Tab -> select MPScan & MPWiFiRemote, then save and restart VC.
Now that I have VC working I'm having mixed results - probably to do with mic quality but even when I use a USB mic which works well with Dragon Naturally Speaking (the worst named programme ever imho!) but I'll play around with the settings when I get a chance. One quick question, how do I jump to "Music" for example? or should I just be able to play an Artist or Album etc from any screen by saying "Play Artist Destinys Child"? (nothing happens at the moment)
Hope to get this working :)
Cheers
Bleazle
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In the next test release of VoxCommando I will include a configuration for MediaPortal, and I'll try to do a bit more testing too.
When I tested the zip from this thread the plugins are there without having to go to options, so I'm not too sure what is going on. Make sure you are not using VC in a protected area of your file system, like program files.
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Now that I have VC working I'm having mixed results - probably to do with mic quality but even when I use a USB mic which works well with Dragon Naturally Speaking (the worst named programme ever imho!) but I'll play around with the settings when I get a chance. One quick question, how do I jump to "Music" for example? or should I just be able to play an Artist or Album etc from any screen by saying "Play Artist Destinys Child"? (nothing happens at the moment)
Did you follow the steps outlined in the following post?: http://voxcommando.com/forum/index.php?topic=614.msg4437#msg4437
If you want to see a list of available commands, from the main VC window click "help" > "Generate Help Menu" and a web page will open with all the commands on it.
Yes you should be able to say "Play Artist Destinys Child" once it is set up correctly. But you need to scan your MP library and rebuild grammars. See the link above.
If you are able to do dictation with Dragon fairly accurately then you can expect to get very good results on VC with the same equipment. It helps to do a quick training session using windows speech recognition control panel. Also make sure the default input level on your microphone is not set too high. I don't know if dragon uses the default level like VC does or sets its own levels. If you have more than one microphone on your system, make sure the default device is set correctly.
Please be patient. I assure you it can work extremely well, but I haven't spent that much time ironing out the kinks for MediaPortal yet. The more people are using it and posting here though the more attention I will give it.
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In the next test release of VoxCommando I will include a configuration for MediaPortal, and I'll try to do a bit more testing too...
Great :)
..Make sure you are not using VC in a protected area of your file system, like program files.
Installed in C:\VoxCommando as per the instructions that show during installation :)
Did you follow the steps outlined in the following post?: http://voxcommando.com/forum/index.php?topic=614.msg4437#msg4437
Yep :)
..If you want to see a list of available commands, from the main VC window click "help" > "Generate Help Menu" and a web page will open with all the commands on it.
On to that too :)
Yes you should be able to say "Play Artist Destinys Child" once it is set up correctly. But you need to scan your MP library and rebuild grammars. See the link above.
Done - the first example it gives me in the Commands Help file is Destinys Child :)
If you are able to do dictation with Dragon fairly accurately then you can expect to get very good results on VC with the same equipment. It helps to do a quick training session using windows speech recognition control panel. Also make sure the default input level on your microphone is not set too high....
I don't use Dragon on my HTPC client but the windows speech recognition works well on it.
..Also make sure the default input level on your microphone is not set too high. I don't know if dragon uses the default level like VC does or sets its own levels. If you have more than one microphone on your system, make sure the default device is set correctly....
Done and done :) :)
...Please be patient. I assure you it can work extremely well, but I haven't spent that much time ironing out the kinks for MediaPortal yet. The more people are using it and posting here though the more attention I will give it.
Fair enough! VC seems to be pretty much unknown on the MP forum - I'm off to change my forum signature to help rectify that :)
Looking forward to seeing how this progresses for MP - to be honest I don't need it, but if I can get it to work effortlessly it's just cool haha.
Regards
Bleazle
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Im not 100% but I would imagine Mediaportal uses the iD3 tags in your MP3 files to build its database so make sure they are correct, if your artists all appear correct in MP music section then you should be ok (asuming you arent using the shares view)
Play artist X, for me works perfectly, all my mp3s are taged with artist AND album artist tag as i use the album artist view in mediaportal.
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Hi James!
First of all, let me say that you have done an INCREDIBLE and AWESOME job with VoxCommando, I've been playing with it for the last couple of days and it's amazing. I love it!
I'm planning on buying a license soon (1-2 days, when I finish configuring my system), but I have a question about the two types of license:
Which are the main differences? Beta Releases are included in the standard version? What about small jumping release (0.933 -> 0.934)? I suppose that at the end I will buy the 35 dollars license (you deserve it without any doubt), but I prefer to ask it first ;-)
And talking about MediaPortal... man, you should open a post in MediaPortal's forum NOW! Until Shukuyen wrote the program name when announcing the new version of WifiRemote I didn't know that this kind of program even exist! It's so flexible and configurable, you can do million of things with it. MediaPortal users will love it, I'm sure, and you will sell more licenses ;-) The integration with WifiRemote works perfectly and if you could contact with MPExtended developers that would make the whole MediaPortal - VoxCommando experience wondeful. You can contact to Oxan and DieBagger (great guys and very helpful) in MediaPortal's forum or in #mp-extended channel at freenode.
If you don't mind, I'm going to make some feature request for the program. Can you add the following options of WifiRemote?
- Send powermode options. I'm using VoxCommando in my home server to control my HTPC and, although I can wake up the client using the WOL feature of VC, I'm really missing the option to suspend/restart/shutdown the HTPC with my voice. For now I do it using .bat file launcher, but it's working slowly and I think that using WifiRemote (WF in the future :D) is more elegant.
- Send position options. WR offers the option to jump to a specific position of a video file, so it would be cool if you could incorporate it to VC.
- Send playchannel command. Ideal to jump to a specific TV channel just with your voice.
- Send Nowplaying command. Really powerful as it offers the option to get different information depending of the media type: tvshow (series name, season number, episode number, episode name, episode director, episode plot,...), movies (title, year, tagline, plot, genre, director...).
Ummmm... in fact, I would really love to see as much as commands that WR offers included in VC :D Here you have the list of command available:
http://wiki.team-mediaportal.com/1_MEDIAPORTAL_1/17_Extensions/3_Plugins/WifiRemote/Commands
Oh, god, as I can see in tvseries section, you can send a command using WR to play a specific TVShow episode (you can even play the next unwatch episode of a series)! That would be awesome ;-)
I know that I'm asking too much (please, forgive me), but just take your time and add the options that you consider more interesting, at least WR offers a great API and I'm sure that Shukuyen will help you. If you need someone to test future additions contact me.
Congratulations again for the program and many thanks for your help.
Best regards,
Aitor
PS: Sorry for my level of English (I'm Spanish) and for the length of my post, but I'm very excited with VC.
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Hi Bodiroga. Happy new year and welcome to VC and the forum.
Thanks for your suggestions, and your generous praise. It is wonderful to be appreciated, and it's very nice that you notice the flexibility since that is one of my primary goals.
As for the mediaPortal forum, I prefer to wait until I have had a chance to polish things off a little before making any kind of big announcement. The addition of MediaPortal to our list of plugins is pretty new and it still needs lots of work. WifiRemote is expanding and we are waiting on some improvements to the TVSeries plugin too. When new users try to use something that doesn't work, we often never see them again.
As for licenses you can upgrade to all the updated releases for at least 6 months from the time of purchase if you buy the regular license (it doesn't matter if they are major, minor, beta etc) though obviously I prefer if you buy the full license ;)
I will look at all your suggestions for sure and will probably use most of them. It is just a matter of time. I already have a few other things keeping me busy with VC but I am planning on dedicating a good chunk of my time to the MP stuff very soon. I don't have any particular dates in mind but I hope to make some improvement before the end of January for sure.
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OK, mic is sorted and I things are looking good :) Now that I've got VC running quite well I can see that it would actually be very handy - I'm running it on my client which is in the kitchen so having the ability to pause TV, scroll the TV Guide etc while cooking dinner (unfortunately my wife doesn't let me spend ALL of my time tweaking my HTPC!) would be great :)
I do have a "bit" of a problem though... when VC is running I don't get any sound when music is playing :( TV/Video is fine though ??? To get sound to work again I have to close VC, then restart MP - are there any log files I can give you that will point to the problem?
@bodiroga: Some great suggestions there, +1 to all of them :)
... I'm really missing the option to suspend/restart/shutdown the HTPC with my voice...
What skin are you using? I agree that a specific commands for power options would be good but for the moment I select the "Power Off, Reboot, Close" menu from BasicHome menu which isn't too bad (I'm using Avalon)
...but I am planning on dedicating a good chunk of my time to the MP stuff very soon. I don't have any particular dates in mind but I hope to make some improvement before the end of January for sure.
Great! :) :)
A "Hidden Menu" command would also be handy - I can get it to show by using "Go right 1" for example but that's a bit clunky - "Hidden Menu" would be better :)
Looking forward to the next release - looks like VC will be on my shopping list very soon!
Cheers
Bleazle
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(unfortunately my wife doesn't let me spend ALL of my time tweaking my HTPC!) would be great :)
Sing it brother :biglaugh
I do have a "bit" of a problem though... when VC is running I don't get any sound when music is playing :( TV/Video is fine though ??? To get sound to work again I have to close VC, then restart MP - are there any log files I can give you that will point to the problem?
That's weird though I'm not 100% sure what you mean. Can you please explain the sequence of events and exactly what is happening. And maybe tell me a bit more about your sound setup.
If you start VC then start MP, and then try to play music in MP (all on the same computer?), without doing anything else in VC, there is no music? TV/Video is fine... in MP? I'm not really sure what that means... If you play an avi in MP you get sound? Do you get menu navigation sounds? Not being particularly familiar with MP and not knowing anything about your setup (analog, hdmi, coax, sound card, wiring, and about 50 other variables) it is pretty hard to figure out what might be going on. You could try sending me an MP log. I doubt that VC logs will show anything on this. The only thing I can think of without more info is that maybe the TTS voice in VC is somehow blocking your MP music... though I've never seen this happen before. If you go to windows "text to speech" settings and click on "Advanced", you can select different output devices for TTS, or set it to use the "default" device. You could try playing with these settings and see if it makes a difference.
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You should maybe check that the volume in MP and windows sound mixer is not being lowered or muted somehow. It might make sense then that you get sound in video if the sound is in DTS or similar modes it won't actually respond to the sound settings on your computer or in MP which would explain why you hear sound in video/TV. I vaguely recall that there are different ways to set your volume up in MP, either independent or tied into system volume level.
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A "Hidden Menu" command would also be handy - I can get it to show by using "Go right 1" for example but that's a bit clunky - "Hidden Menu" would be better :)
What exactly is the "Hidden Menu" ? If you can always get to it by going right, you only need to create a new command with whatever phrase you want to use such as "hidden menu, open hidden menu" and then send an action to go right. If there is some other command in WFRemote or via a keypress that is specific to opening this menu then please let me know.
If it is just a question of creating a new phrase the sends the right arrow, and you need help setting that up, just let us know. It's really easy.
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... Can you please explain the sequence of events and exactly what is happening. And maybe tell me a bit more about your sound setup.
Sure thing:
The Setup: MediaPortal client (HP Touchsmart 600 Series, W7, onboard Realtek High Definition Audio). VC is installed on this computer and is being used to control it. Navigation (skin) sounds are turned off in MP.
What happens: Open MP with VC. If I play recorded TV or any other video file in MP the sound from the file being played is fine. If I play music I get no sound (I have tried MP3 & Windows Media files) I can set the volume level using VC or manually using the remote but I still don't get any sound even though I can see that the file is playing.
Here is the log info from MP:
Server stack trace:
at System.Net.Sockets.Socket.Connect(IPAddress[] addresses, Int32 port)
at System.Runtime.Remoting.Channels.RemoteConnection.CreateNewSocket(AddressFamily family)
at System.Runtime.Remoting.Channels.RemoteConnection.CreateNewSocket()
at System.Runtime.Remoting.Channels.RemoteConnection.GetSocket()
at System.Runtime.Remoting.Channels.SocketCache.GetSocket(String machinePortAndSid, Boolean openNew)
at System.Runtime.Remoting.Channels.Tcp.TcpClientTransportSink.SendRequestWithRetry(IMessage msg, ITransportHeaders requestHeaders, Stream requestStream)
at System.Runtime.Remoting.Channels.Tcp.TcpClientTransportSink.ProcessMessage(IMessage msg, ITransportHeaders requestHeaders, Stream requestStream, ITransportHeaders& responseHeaders, Stream& responseStream)
at System.Runtime.Remoting.Channels.BinaryClientFormatterSink.SyncProcessMessage(IMessage msg)
Exception rethrown at
at System.Runtime.Remoting.Proxies.RealProxy.HandleReturnMessage(IMessage reqMsg, IMessage retMsg)
at System.Runtime.Remoting.Proxies.RealProxy.PrivateInvoke(MessageData& msgData, Int32 type)
at TvControl.IController.get_Cards()
at Micropolis.TVCore.CoreTVHandler.GetTVServerCardCount()
at SleepControlPlugin.SleepControl.InitTVServer(), No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it 127.0.0.1:31456)
2012-01-02 10:42:07.503440 [ERROR][(17)]: World Weather: Error reading location feed information. Status code: (Error Code: System.IndexOutOfRangeException: Index was outside the bounds of the array.
at WorldWeatherPlugin.WorldWeather.GetWeatherFeedData(), Index was outside the bounds of the array.)
2012-01-02 10:43:39.278689 [ERROR][MPMain(1)]: Exception :System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at MediaPortal.Mixer.Mixer.Dispose()
at MediaPortal.ExtensionMethods.ObjectMethods.SafeDispose(Object o)
at MediaPortal.Player.VolumeHandler.Dispose()
at MediaPortalApp.OnExit()
at MediaPortalApp.Main(String[] args)
2012-01-02 10:43:39.278689 [ERROR][MPMain(1)]: Exception :Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
2012-01-02 10:43:39.279689 [ERROR][MPMain(1)]: site :Void Dispose()
2012-01-02 10:43:39.280690 [ERROR][MPMain(1)]: source :Core
2012-01-02 10:43:39.280690 [ERROR][MPMain(1)]: stacktrace: at MediaPortal.Mixer.Mixer.Dispose()
at MediaPortal.ExtensionMethods.ObjectMethods.SafeDispose(Object o)
at MediaPortal.Player.VolumeHandler.Dispose()
at MediaPortalApp.OnExit()
at MediaPortalApp.Main(String[] args)
2012-01-02 10:43:39.281690 [ERROR][MPMain(1)]: MediaPortal stopped due to an exception Object reference not set to an instance of an object. Core at MediaPortal.Mixer.Mixer.Dispose()
at MediaPortal.ExtensionMethods.ObjectMethods.SafeDispose(Object o)
at MediaPortal.Player.VolumeHandler.Dispose()
at MediaPortalApp.OnExit()
at MediaPortalApp.Main(String[] args)
... maybe the TTS voice in VC is somehow blocking your MP music... If you go to windows "text to speech" settings and click on "Advanced", you can select different output devices for TTS, or set it to use the "default" device. You could try playing with these settings and see if it makes a difference.
Had a look at this - I don't have any option other than "Microsoft - Anna - English" & I have selected "use preferred audio output device"
...You should maybe check that the volume in MP and windows sound mixer is not being lowered or muted somehow...
Looking at the logs it seems as though there is something going on there (but I don't know what!)
What exactly is the "Hidden Menu" ?
It's a menu that's...uh.... hidden :biglaugh :biglaugh - the problem is depending on the skin you use and the view you're in accessing the hidden menu via the remote can either be with the "up" or "left" button. At the moment I am telling VC "go left (or up) 1" to get it to open - if there is a phrase that can be entered to handle both possibilities )depending on where the hidden menu tab is sitting) let me know what to do and I'll give it a go :)
Regards
Bleazle
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Hi Bleazle, work MP without VC correct? The MP-log shows some errors at MP mixer
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humph. I'm a bit stumped. Yes, it clearly shows that MP is having trouble setting up sound.
What happens if you run MP first and then start VC ?
And what if you start VC first, but then start MP, but NOT using a VC command? (eg. start MP via the windows start menu)
You may only have one sound output, but if you have more, then in the TTS sound options you can select which one you want to use with TTS. Of course it could also be related to the way VC plays wav files, but I don't have this problem on either of my machines. No one else has mentioned this either, though there aren't too many people using VC with MP yet.
I don't know why MP does not have a key or command for opening up the hidden menu. It might be possible to have VC decide whether to use the left or up arrow, if it can keep track of which window is open, but it'll be messy, varying not only from window to window but probably changing from skin to skin. For now I suggest that you might want to create commands like "menu left" and "menu up" which simply do the left and up arrows respectively.
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Hi Bleazle, work MP without VC correct? The MP-log shows some errors at MP mixer
Yep, music plays fine when VC isn't turned on.
If I try to play music in MP using VC or if I use the remote to try to play music when VC is running I have to close VC & restart MP to get music to play. Closing VC alone doesn't fix the problem ???
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yes MP seems to have trouble setting up the sound at startup. Please answer the questions in my previous post:
What happens if you run MP first and then start VC ?
And what if you start VC first, but then start MP, but NOT using a VC command? (eg. start MP via the windows start menu)
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humph. I'm a bit stumped.
Me too.. I was replying earlier so didn't see your reply until after I hit "post" - been busy since then...
...What happens if you run MP first and then start VC ?..
If VC is running I get no sound for music, no matter how I go about things - I have tried the following:
- Start MP first and then start VC, use VC to play music.
- Start MP then start VC, use remote to play music
- Start VC then MP (with VC), use VC to play music
- Start VC then MP, use remote to play music
Strangely enough there are no errors showing in the MP logs now ???
..You may only have one sound output, but if you have more, then in the TTS sound options you can select which one you want to use with TTS. Of course it could also be related to the way VC plays wav files, but I don't have this problem on either of my machines...
Screenshot attached of TTS options - there's nothing else to choose from.. NOTE: I have no "sounds" selected in VC -> Options -> General - Sounds but I still hear "connecting" when igiving the first command in MP (which doesn't stick - I always have to repeat the first command after VC says "connecting" even if I have used VC to open MP)
..I don't know why MP does not have a key or command for opening up the hidden menu. ... For now I suggest that you might want to create commands like "menu left" and "menu up" which simply do the left and up arrows respectively.
Sounds good - how do I do that? :) I had a look under Edit -> MPWiFiRemote Buttons and tried adding a command but obviously did something wrong..
A couple of other things:
- is there any way to correct VC when it gets a command wrong? e.g. I say SetVolume50 and always end up with "15" :-\ Strange because us Kiwi's don't have an accent, it's the rest of you that do ;D
- Is it possible for me to change the position of the overlay or is that set in the programme?
Regards
Bleazle
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well you may only have one output device, but if you had others, they would appear in the dropdown where it currently says "Speakers (realtek high def audio)"
maybe you can try upgrading to the latest version here: http://voxcommando.com/forum/index.php?topic=668.0
make a backup copy of your whole VC folder in case things go sideways. Then download 0.934c into the new folder and run it to update. It's a long shot but worth a try.
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Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Damien for the win!!!!!
http://code.google.com/p/mptvseries/issues/detail?id=526
James, it's incredible how fast is all this going, MediaPortal has passed from no-support to being able to compare to XBMC or MediaMonkey in terms of flexibility. Now it's only a matter of planning the priority order and, the most important thing, having free time to add all this amount of features. VoxCommando and Mediaportal's together feature is reallllly promising.
Many thanks for all your work and help and best regards,
Aitor
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yes! I just did a quick test and it seems to work as expected. I will try to spend some time on this tomorrow ::banana
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Screenshot attached of TTS options - there's nothing else to choose from.. NOTE: I have no "sounds" selected in VC -> Options -> General - Sounds but I still hear "connecting" when igiving the first command in MP (which doesn't stick - I always have to repeat the first command after VC says "connecting" even if I have used VC to open MP)
I have never seen only one audio output on a system ??? Do you have install all driver for realtek audio device?
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well you may only have one output device, but if you had others, they would appear in the dropdown where it currently says "Speakers (realtek high def audio)"..
Yep, but definitely nothing else to select from :-\
...maybe you can try upgrading to the latest version here: http://voxcommando.com/forum/index.php?topic=668.0...It's a long shot but worth a try.
Thanks - gave it a go (selected iTunes as the initial profile then did the MP setup) - I couldn't even get it to open MP but that doesn't matter, I opened MP manually and tried playing music - same issue, when VC is running I get no sound for Music ???
..I have never seen only one audio output on a system ??? Do you have install all driver for realtek audio device?...
Thanks for the suggestion.. but I had already looked at that too....
Computers eh? :bonk
Regards
Bleazle
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Yep, but definitely nothing else to select from :-\
Thanks - gave it a go (selected iTunes as the initial profile then did the MP setup) - I couldn't even get it to open MP but that doesn't matter, I opened MP manually and tried playing music - same issue, when VC is running I get no sound for Music ???
Thanks for the suggestion.. but I had already looked at that too....
Computers eh? :bonk
Regards
Bleazle
Hi Bleazle, I want not nerves ::), but your driver is very old. I've found on the realtek page one from 16/12/2011
It is curious that your soundcard is a High Def Audio and has no Digital Output only aanalog audio ::hmm
Kalle
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Hi Bleazle, I want not nerves ::), but your driver is very old. I've found on the realtek page one from 16/12/2011
It is curious that your soundcard is a High Def Audio and has no Digital Output only aanalog audio ::hmm
Kalle
Thanks for pointing that out - I have installed the latest driver manually (as per the pic below) but it hasn't changed anything :-\ Note: There was a Digital Output showing but I disabled it this morning (and then it totally disappeared, I thought it would still show in the Device Manager ???) because selecting it did nothing, no sound played anywhere. Now it is back again as per the second screenshot but that hasn't changed either, selecting it kills all sound output - am I supposed to do something else here? ::)
Cheers
Bleazle
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If you right click the other device you can select 'view disabled devices' or something like that so you can still turn it back on etc.
I have had numerous problems with Windows in the past randomly trying to use a different audio device that has nothing plugged in. I always disable non used devices.
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Here are some other things you can try. There are two areas of MP where you can adjust sound settings. First, you can choose between the "BASS player" and the "internal DirectShow player". Whichever one you are using, try the other one and see if it makes a difference.
Then there are other settings as well, where you can select output devices. Try different combinations and let us know if one of them works.
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Thanks for pointing that out - I have installed the latest driver manually (as per the pic below) but it hasn't changed anything :-\ Note: There was a Digital Output showing but I disabled it this morning (and then it totally disappeared, I thought it would still show in the Device Manager ???) because selecting it did nothing, no sound played anywhere. Now it is back again as per the second screenshot but that hasn't changed either, selecting it kills all sound output - am I supposed to do something else here? ::)
Cheers
Bleazle
This sounds bad :-[ - I have a little researched and found some problems with this soundchip. You can use a windows system recovery, with the date before install the latest realtek-driver. Can you tell me the exact device name "HP touchsmart 600...."
A other way is a extern usb soundcard http://www.terratec.net/en/products/Aureon_Dual_USB_9842.html (http://www.terratec.net/en/products/Aureon_Dual_USB_9842.html) this is a cheap one and you have a opt. digital output to a receiver .
Kalle
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digital output will only work if you connect it to a digital receiver via optical, coax, or hdmi.
be careful with using windows restore... it can be great, but can also lead to tears!
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FIXXXXEDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D Thanks for your persistence her guys!!
It looks like the problem/conflict is due to ASIO4ALL :-[ I changed the player from BASS engine to Internal dshow player & everything plays fine - ASIO4ALLis disabled when using the Internal dshow player. This isn't a big issue on the client that I've installed VC on because I'm only using the built in speakers but it does mean that I won't be using VC on my main HTPC because music sounds much better when ASIO4ALL is running. I changed the music player back to BASS engine and disabled ASIO4ALL & once again music plays without any problems so there's a big finger pointing at ASIO4ALL. Do you think there's anything you can do as far as making changes in VC is concerned?
Re: Hidden menu: I had a look at creating a command and think I pretty much had it sorted but then decided to stick with "go up" or "go left" - they do the trick now that I've realised I don't need to say "1" as well.
Back to these things I mentioned earlier:
- is there any way to correct VC when it gets a command wrong? e.g. I say SetVolume50 and always end up with "15" Undecided Strange because us Kiwi's don't have an accent, it's the rest of you that do Grin
- Is it possible for me to change the position of the overlay or is that set in the programme?
Cheers
Bleazle
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FIXXXXEDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D Thanks for your persistence her guys!!
It looks like the problem/conflict is due to ASIO4ALL :-[ I changed the player from BASS engine to Internal dshow player & everything plays fine - ASIO4ALLis disabled when using the Internal dshow player. This isn't a big issue on the client that I've installed VC on because I'm only using the built in speakers but it does mean that I won't be using VC on my main HTPC because music sounds much better when ASIO4ALL is running. I changed the music player back to BASS engine and disabled ASIO4ALL & once again music plays without any problems so there's a big finger pointing at ASIO4ALL. Do you think there's anything you can do as far as making changes in VC is concerned?
Re: Hidden menu: I had a look at creating a command and think I pretty much had it sorted but then decided to stick with "go up" or "go left" - they do the trick now that I've realised I don't need to say "1" as well.
Back to these things I mentioned earlier:
Cheers
Bleazle
I use asio4all sometimes in Cubase to create music. The asiodriver block the microsoft soundmapper, so all wave and mp3 files do not play.
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- is there any way to correct VC when it gets a command wrong? e.g. I say SetVolume50 and always end up with "15" Undecided Strange because us Kiwi's don't have an accent, it's the rest of you that do Grin
- Is it possible for me to change the position of the overlay or is that set in the programme?
Yes, there is an option to confirm a command, use the attach xml.
Yes, there is an option, click the "wand" when you edit a command and take a look under OSD - attach bleazle3.png
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Kalle is right, you can "confirm" a command, but there is no way to correct it. To be fair, regardless of your accent, 15 and 50 sound pretty much the same and on the phone I can never tell what people are saying and I make them say either "five oh" or "one five". The best way to avoid getting 15 if you don't use it is to remove it from the list. If you are using a range of values for the payload such as 0-100 then you can't just remove the 15 from the options, but in these cases I usually use a payload list instead with values 0,10,20,30,40,50,60,70,80,90,100
alternatively you could use a range 0-10 and then just add a 0 in the action parameter like this: setvolume {1}0
since VC uses the Microsoft speech engine you can try training the engine in word using (WSR) Windows built in Speech Recognition. In this mode you can say "correct that" and tell it what you really mean when it gets things wrong. I don't personally think it is worth the effort though, and in the case of 15-50 I don't think it'll make any difference. Often the best solution is to adapt our phrases to avoid ambiguity. In this case you could create a special command with the phrase "set volume moderate" and hard wire that to 50 (i.e. not use a payload).
It is worth doing a couple of WSR training sessions though.
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Hmmm, ok - you can not correct it, but with the confirm command you have the variety for "yes" or "don't do it". When you say "don't do it" so you have the chance to repeat the command, that was my idea.
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yup. Also if you are showing "alternates" (options - general tab) you will probably see "set volume 50" coming up as option two, so you could just say "option two"
the problem is that when mediaportal is in full screen mode it may be blocking the OSD popups. In XBMC you can see the popup when in "virtual fullscreen" but not when in "true fullscreen". Not sure what the deal is with MediaPortal though. It might be possible to add some kind of built in OSD in MediaPortal though, for displaying VC info. The ideal would be to add this functionality to WifiRemote I guess, to avoid having to install more plugins in MP.
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yup. Also if you are showing "alternates" (options - general tab) you will probably see "set volume 50" coming up as option two, so you could just say "option two"
the problem is that when mediaportal is in full screen mode it may be blocking the OSD popups. In XBMC you can see the popup when in "virtual fullscreen" but not when in "true fullscreen". Not sure what the deal is with MediaPortal though. It might be possible to add some kind of built in OSD in MediaPortal though, for displaying VC info. The ideal would be to add this functionality to WifiRemote I guess, to avoid having to install more plugins in MP.
::club ::club ::club ::club ::club ::club ::club
Ok, I have ignored that we here in MediaPortal topic - sorry
@Bleazle forget my xml it was written for XBMC :bonk
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FIXXXXEDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D Thanks for your persistence her guys!!
It looks like the problem/conflict is due to ASIO4ALL :-[ I changed the player from BASS engine to Internal dshow player & everything plays fine - ASIO4ALLis disabled when using the Internal dshow player. This isn't a big issue on the client that I've installed VC on because I'm only using the built in speakers but it does mean that I won't be using VC on my main HTPC because music sounds much better when ASIO4ALL is running. I changed the music player back to BASS engine and disabled ASIO4ALL & once again music plays without any problems so there's a big finger pointing at ASIO4ALL. Do you think there's anything you can do as far as making changes in VC is concerned?
I have tried using ASIO4ALL in the past when doing music recording (I think) and I seem to recall having a lot of headaches with it, so I'm not surprised to find that it is involved here. Sounds like it does not play well with others. At least now I can probably recreate the problem which makes it way easier to fix. I have to be honest though, this is pretty low on my very long list of priorities!
What exactly does ASIO4ALL do for your sound quality that the BASS player does not without it? When I tried to use it in the past it was in an attempt to reduce latency when recording (to get better sync in multi-track recordings), but that would not be a factor for just listening to music.
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Just bought the Full Licence :) Based in what I see so far I'm confident this will work out great with MP :)
...The asiodriver block the microsoft soundmapper, so all wave and mp3 files do not play...
Bummer :-\
...Yes, there is an option, click the "wand" when you edit a command and take a look under OSD
I got to the screen you showed but couldn't work out how to save anything - do I need to create a new command? If so where? (under what group I guess I mean)...
..The best way to avoid getting 15 if you don't use it is to remove it from the list..
Did that (edited the current command), now "50" is being interpreted as "30" ::)
..but in these cases I usually use a payload list instead with values 0,10,20,30,40,50,60,70,80,90,100...
Is there a Wiki on how to do this stuff? I'm all for trial and error and working it out myself but a few more pointers on "how to do" not "what to do" would be handy ;D
..alternatively you could use a range 0-10 and then just add a 0 in the action parameter like this: setvolume {1}0...
Created a command (see below) to set the volume at 50 - it doesn't work - what have I done wrong?
..Also if you are showing "alternates" (options - general tab) you will probably see "set volume 50" coming up as option two, so you could just say "option two"
I'm using 0.912 which is why I probably can't see "alternates"? I was planning on waiting until you release a version which is more tailored towards MP because it doesn't sound too far away...
...the problem is that when mediaportal is in full screen mode it may be blocking the OSD popups.
No, I can see them :) and you can probably see why I want to move them too (I take it the OSD pop-up can be moved too?...)
OK, wife wants me to spend some time with her now ::)... or maybe I'll go kitesurfing instead... mmm... tough call...
Cheers
Bleazle
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That's a couple too many question at once for me to handle :P. There is a wiki. Click the wiki button at the top of the forum, or at the top of the any voxcommando.com page.
It's a little out of date and not 100% complete either because VC keeps changing and it's hard to keep up with everything. Still it should cover all the basics. There are also video tutorials (also out of date, but also helpful in understanding the basic concepts at play). Just search for: voxcommando tutorials on google and/or youtube
the two main links of interest in the wiki would be these:
http://voxcommando.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=How_to_use_VoxCommando
http://voxcommando.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Options
if you want to move the OSD status icon you just need to click and drag it with your mouse and it should remember the position. Or you can just turn it off directly on the options dropdown of the main VC window.
the alternates osd can be turned on in options. This has nothing to do with mediaPortal, it's a person choice thing. Either you want it or you don't. There is no standard position for any of these things that will work for every window of any given skin. It's only up there for a short time, but if it bothers you can turn each one on or off individually. (the icon, the recognized commands, the alternate commands). There are currently no settings to adjust the position of the osd popups for recognized commands or alternates. It's hard to have options for everything.
Hope that gives you something to chew on for now.
P.S. Thanks for buying! :bignod
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I really do want to make some new video tutorials to demonstrate the basic of command building and editing in the new version, but it seems there is always something else to do first!
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Looks like we were typing over each other again..
..@Bleazle forget my xml it was written for XBMC..
No problem, I gathered that when I opened it ;D
I have tried using ASIO4ALL....At least now I can probably recreate the problem which makes it way easier to fix. I have to be honest though, this is pretty low on my very long list of priorities!
Guess it'll be a while before I get to use the second licence on my HTPC then! No problem though :)
..What exactly does ASIO4ALL do for your sound quality that the BASS player does not without it?...
I have a Marantz Amp with an HDMI feed from my HTPC and music sounded good but when I installed ASIO4ALL it was like I had taken a pillow off all of my speakers - the sound is that much better!
...There is a wiki. Click the wiki button at the top of the forum, or at the top of the any voxcommando.com page...
:bonk ;D Thanks, I'll have a look... I'll have a look at the OSD thing too - I realise they can both be turned off, once I'm more confident with VC I'll turn off the confirmation osd at least.
Re: Tutorials - I've done a bit of that sort of stuff before (interactive Flash tutorials) and it took a lot of time so I hear what you're saying - product development first - tutorials if you get sick of answering the same questions too many times ;D
Regards
Bleazle
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Guess it'll be a while before I get to use the second licence on my HTPC then! No problem though :)
I have a Marantz Amp with an HDMI feed from my HTPC and music sounded good but when I installed ASIO4ALL it was like I had taken a pillow off all of my speakers - the sound is that much better!
You can use your single license on two machine, as long as they both belong to you. :)
If you are using an exclusive digital connection via hdmi with something like asio4all, there is no program that will be able to output sound at the same time (AFAIK), because the sound pipe has basically been hijacked. If I come up with a "fix" it will probably not really be a fix. It will be an option to disable TTS in VC completely so that it doesn't interfere with your MP sound setup. The way I have it set up now, is that the TTS voice is "created" as soon as you start VC so that it is ready to use. If I create a new TTS voice each time you want to use TTS it can take a long time to respond.
I have a similar "hijack" situation when I am watching 5.1 DTS or AC3 in XBMC, (or if I use WASAPI output in MediaMonkey). The sound works in XBMC, but I cant use TTS or generate any other sounds. The sound is taken over by XBMC until I pause or stop the video. The weird thing is that TTS gets "stuck in the pipe" so if VC tried to TTS anything while the movie was playing, I'll hear the TTS voice when I stop the video.
What I propose as a solution though, which (works fine for me) is this: if your htpc has hdmi then you have an anolog sound output that is not being used. This can be sent directly to your TV since the AMP is handling the "real" audio. The TTS settings can specify that you want to use the analog output for TTS. That way there is no conflict.
- TTS via analog to your TV
- all else digital via hdmi to your AMP (as you have it now)
That is why I was suggesting earlier that you try setting a different audio output for TTS.
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I'm trying to get asio4all working on my system and reading the instructions which say this:
● Set the power scheme to Always On (XP) or High Performance (Vista) in order to turn off
Processor P-State switching! Advanced: Modify an existing power scheme so as to not switch CPU
speed, because other power settings are not that critical.
● Turn off system sounds! While e.g. the Windows logon sound certainly will not be a problem,
sound effects in response to button clicks, notifications etc. will mean that for the time they play,
ASIO4ALL may be unable to initialize the audio device.
that pretty much tells me everything I need to know...
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After much fiddling around, I was able to get ASIO4ALL working in MediaPortal. It seems that there are a lot of things that can cause it to not work, however, (ironically?) on my system, running VoxCommando is not one of them. So I think you are out of luck on this one.
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You can use your single license on two machine, as long as they both belong to you. :)
If you are using an exclusive digital connection via hdmi with something like asio4all, there is no program that will be able to output sound at the same time (AFAIK), because the sound pipe has basically been hijacked. If I come up with a "fix" it will probably not really be a fix. It will be an option to disable TTS in VC completely so that it doesn't interfere with your MP sound setup. The way I have it set up now, is that the TTS voice is "created" as soon as you start VC so that it is ready to use. If I create a new TTS voice each time you want to use TTS it can take a long time to respond.
I have a similar "hijack" situation when I am watching 5.1 DTS or AC3 in XBMC, (or if I use WASAPI output in MediaMonkey). The sound works in XBMC, but I cant use TTS or generate any other sounds. The sound is taken over by XBMC until I pause or stop the video. The weird thing is that TTS gets "stuck in the pipe" so if VC tried to TTS anything while the movie was playing, I'll hear the TTS voice when I stop the video.
What I propose as a solution though, which (works fine for me) is this: if your htpc has hdmi then you have an anolog sound output that is not being used. This can be sent directly to your TV since the AMP is handling the "real" audio. The TTS settings can specify that you want to use the analog output for TTS. That way there is no conflict.
- TTS via analog to your TV
- all else digital via hdmi to your AMP (as you have it now)
That is why I was suggesting earlier that you try setting a different audio output for TTS.
James do you have tried VirtualAudioCable, it can route 5.1 sound
@Bleazle I have a Marantz Amp with an HDMI feed from my HTPC and music sounded good but when I installed ASIO4ALL it was like I had taken a pillow off all of my speakers - the sound is that much better!
It is possible that this is the Realtek-mixer and with his EQ, the mixer is visible in the taskbar (deer horns), I think you can terminate it with a right click on the icon and click "finished/exit/end program".
The problem with Asio4All is: When you have a cheap soundcard "like realtek" it can't handle low latency at two times, so when you play music and in a other program anything that use a soundoutput to the same soundcard, so it won't work.
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I guess I won't know until I try VC on my HTPC (I read the licence info before hitting "buy" and yes, I definitely own it! ;D... or maybe it owns me...mmm...now you've got me thinking ;D ) which I won't do until the release which is more MP specific comes out but thanks for the suggestions.
I'm (slowly) getting my head around building commands. I've sorted out how to set set volume to 50, jump to recorded TV and now I have TTS set up for a few commands too like: "Start Listening" - says "David I'm listening" - my kids will love that! ;D (they're not here at the moment) and I'm hoping I can can use VC to train my wife lol!!!!! She thinks it's funny so that's a start ;D
When I upgrade to a new version of VC I take it tweaks like this are not carried over, or are they? (I know I should back the contents of the VC folder up)
Dave
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When you upgrade VC your settings and commands are retained. However, if you want to use a preset configuration (which you will in this case because it will contain new MP commands) then you will lose your commands because the preset will overwrite it.
So you just need to
1) move the commands you want to keep to the bin. (the tree on the right side - just drag and drop)
2) save all
3) upgrade
4) apply the new MP config
5) drag your custom commands back over form the bin to your main tree.
6) save all
or something along those lines. the main thing is to keep a copy of your original voicecommands.xml file because you can always import groups and commands from that.
Obviously you should zip up the whole folder in advance and put it somewhere safe in case something goes wrong.
As for testing on your htpc, the demo is 100% identical to the paid version (except the 25 commands limit) so you can test on the htpc to your heart's content before activating it. You just have to restart VC periodically.
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Thanks for clarifying all of that :)
I can't get "play song XX" to work (I appreciate that this is a test release that I am using..). I've tried creating a new command and changing a few things as shown but still no go - any ideas?
Thanks
Dave
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FIXED! Changed strSong to strTitle :)
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cool. you're becoming an old hand already. I'm sure I must have tested that, so I wonder if MP changed their database naming conventions in a recent update. I'll try to remember to test and update this in the next release.
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FIXED! Changed strSong to strTitle :)
I must say I am thouroughly confused by this. Where did this command come from? I cannot find it in the version "VC 0912 MediaPortal test.exe" which is in the first post of this thread.
What version are you using? Did you create / modify this command?
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I'm still using the test release. I didn't create the original command (top left of the above screenshot) - maybe I dragged it from the right hand side? (I did drag a command from there but I can't remember which one)
Hope you're less confused now ;D
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nope. still pretty confused.
this is what it looks like "out of the box"
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It's coming back to me now! (sorry, my mistake, I've been playing with lots of different things trying to work out how to do stuff) - yep, what you have shown is the original but it didn't work so I went and looked at a command that was working (can't remember which one) and more or less copied that - strSong was a guess on my part (I don't know anything about this sort of stuff!) until I realised that I should take a look at the music database (I've had to do that for a couple of other MP plugins so I know the basics) and see what the field was called - obviously it's "Title", not song! :bonk
Right now I've got a problem which is bugging me (because I can't work out what has happened) - "play artist XX" & "Play genre XX"etc were working great then I decided to take a stab at making the command "who is this?" - it didn't work so I deleted it but now none of the other MPWIFI Music commands work ??? I have generated new MP Payloads but that (as expected) didn't help... what have I done???
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UPDATE: MPWIFI Music commands are working now - I haven't done anything since posting the above post apart from launching MP again (which I had done several times before posting the above comment, as well as a full restart) and it's working again. Must've just been a bit of a glitch.. working now though so all good :)
I think I mentioned this earlier: For some reason the first "select" command I make once MP is launched doesn't "stick" e.g.: Launch MP (MP opens), scroll up 1 (works), select (VC says "connecting" but nothing happens), select (works).
Cheers
Bleazle
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"play song X" works perfectly for me out of the box (0.912) with no modification other than doing an xml scan and rebuild. Also, the 2 plugins are already enabled with no need to go into options to enable them, so this is partly why I am confused, and wondering if you are downloading the same version that I am.
I am glad you are learning to make your own commands though, and that you actually figured that one out. That is excellent. ::bow
I think that with the older version (0.912), the connection once severed for some reason would only be fixed by restarting VoxCommando. Don't worry about that for now since I hope I have improved the connect action and I also hope to release an update fairly soon... a matter of days I think, if I can focus.
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I think I mentioned this earlier: For some reason the first "select" command I make once MP is launched doesn't "stick" e.g.: Launch MP (MP opens), scroll up 1 (works), select (VC says "connecting" but nothing happens), select (works).
I think it is just that the first MPWIFIremote command doesn't work because you are not connected yet. This is because you launched VC first. After you start MP (if VC is already running) you need to connect to MP. If you try any mpwifi action in VC when you are not connected, VC will automatically try to connect.
the scroll commands are just using keyboard emulation, so they don't count.
If you start MP first and then start VC, VC will automatically try to connect on startup.
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Hi,
I recently purchased voxcommando and had so much fun with.
It's such a great toy. I use it with Mediaportal and all of its great plugins and Eventhghost ( controling my devices with Tellstick Duo).
Now I am able to control my lights and multimedia just the way I want ( well almost - open mic that could filter only mic out from multimedia that is playing would be it, but)
So my question is: how can I set an action so that when I ask what song/movie is playing, computer answers with the name of the song/movie. I have TTS speak on second set of speakers just for that.
Onece more thanks for the great aplicaton and your support for the mediaportal.
James
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retrieving now-playing info will be available in the next release 0.936
soooooon..... :bignod
edit: oh, and hello and welcome to VC! Thanks for supporting the development of the program by buying. ;D
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retrieving now-playing info will be available in the next release 0.936
soooooon..... :bignod
edit: oh, and hello and welcome to VC! Thanks for supporting the development of the program by buying. ;D
Can't wait to try it James, many many many thanks for your work and support!
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Hi,
I recently purchased voxcommando and had so much fun with.
It's such a great toy. I use it with Mediaportal and all of its great plugins and Eventhghost ( controling my devices with Tellstick Duo).
Now I am able to control my lights and multimedia just the way I want ( well almost - open mic that could filter only mic out from multimedia that is playing would be it, but)
So my question is: how can I set an action so that when I ask what song/movie is playing, computer answers with the name of the song/movie. I have TTS speak on second set of speakers just for that.
Onece more thanks for the great aplicaton and your support for the mediaportal.
James
Welcome Jamesst. Sorry I forgot to respond to this sooner. Thank you very much for your kind words. ;D
Tell your friends! :biglaugh
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Sure thing:
The Setup: MediaPortal client (HP Touchsmart 600 Series, W7, onboard Realtek High Definition Audio). VC is installed on this computer and is being used to control it. Navigation (skin) sounds are turned off in MP.
What happens: Open MP with VC. If I play recorded TV or any other video file in MP the sound from the file being played is fine. If I play music I get no sound (I have tried MP3 & Windows Media files) I can set the volume level using VC or manually using the remote but I still don't get any sound even though I can see that the file is playing.
Here is the log info from MP:
Had a look at this - I don't have any option other than "Microsoft - Anna - English" & I have selected "use preferred audio output device"
Looking at the logs it seems as though there is something going on there (but I don't know what!)
Hi Bleazle, try the new version on your htpc, and let me know if it works now. I changed a few things with sound and tts in version 0.937
http://voxcommando.com/forum/index.php?topic=704.msg5249#msg5249
just make sure you don't have any sound or TTS coming from VoxCommando just before starting MediaPortal of the ASIO won't initialize. This is true for any program and windows system sounds because Asio is picky.
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Hi Bleazle, try the new version on your htpc, and let me know if it works now. I changed a few things with sound and tts in version 0.937
http://voxcommando.com/forum/index.php?topic=704.msg5249#msg5249
just make sure you don't have any sound or TTS coming from VoxCommando just before starting MediaPortal of the ASIO won't initialize. This is true for any program and windows system sounds because Asio is picky.
Cheers, will do - in fact I was just off to do it now ;D I've been away for the last few days (wakeboarding, skiing, jetskiing etc with the kids - I love summer ;D ) and have just spend the last hour trying to catch up what's been posted here - it's been busy!
Bleazle
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I was skiing today too, but my water was a bit colder...
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Edit to my original post: Using 0.937 and things are looking good so far... trying to work out a command at the moment but don't want to "give in" and have to ask for help ;D will keep trying.. it's not midnight yet after all ;D
Testing of 0.936 hasn't gone too well for me :-[... actually I can't get it to do anything because I get this message on startup of VC "No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it 127.0.0.1:8080"
I clicked "allow" when the Windows Firewall message appeared... Any ideas? (WifiRemote: 0.6.0.0 installed)
Cheers
Bleazle
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I moved the question about time skipping to here:
http://voxcommando.com/forum/index.php?topic=714.0
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well, that is not the approach that I would take. It would probably be easiest if you just make 4 different commands and don't use any payloads or logic...
Yeah I figured that was the easiest way I just wanted to see if I could get "tricky" and learn a bit more about how commands work. Thanks for all of the pointers. I don't really like the "skip percent" command because 10% of a 2hr show isn't much but 10% of a 30min show is a lot! ;D I'll have a go later at creating a command that jumps forward or back so many seconds... if I fail I'll ask you how to do it ;D
As an aside, on your demo video you open a web page and do searches etc - I can launch firefox no problem but where are the commands from there? Do I have to activate another plugin?
@ Shango - I saved my custom commands to the bin file in V 0.912 - just copy them to the right hand side of the "Edit" window then save the Bin.xml file (I saved it as a new copy just in case I got something wrong). Then open the newer version of VC, go to "Edit", open the custom Bin file and copy and paste your custom commands over to the left hand side.
Bleazle
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Yeah I figured that was the easiest way I just wanted to see if I could get "tricky" and learn a bit more about how commands work. Thanks for all of the pointers. I don't really like the "skip percent" command because 10% of a 2hr show isn't much but 10% of a 30min show is a lot! ;D I'll have a go later at creating a command that jumps forward or back so many seconds... if I fail I'll ask you how to do it ;D
As an aside, on your demo video you open a web page and do searches etc - I can launch firefox no problem but where are the commands from there? Do I have to activate another plugin?
I think you missed the redirected topic, check out the command I uploaded there.
I think I included a web search in the latest configuration for MP, no? Just say "web search apple pie"
or if you want to go directly to the first hit say "lucky search apple pie"
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I think you missed the redirected topic, check out the command I uploaded there.
We were typing over each other again :-\ - saw your post after I hit "post" - thanks - will go and have a look (and see if you did it the same way I would have - like I've got any idea :biglaugh ) and give the web search a go
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part of the fun is that there is always more than one way to do it.
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@ Shango - I saved my custom commands to the bin file in V 0.912 - just copy them to the right hand side of the "Edit" window then save the Bin.xml file (I saved it as a new copy just in case I got something wrong). Then open the newer version of VC, go to "Edit", open the custom Bin file and copy and paste your custom commands over to the left hand side.
Bleazle
I'm trying this but VC crashes every time I try to copy one over, is there another way? that also seems a bit longwinded if you have lots of custom commands you want to copy over
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nice error report Shango ::club
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copy your old voicecommands.xml to a new file to be safe, then open it in the bin in the new version of VC. Drag what you want over to the active tree.
there is no magical intelligent "merge" command that knows what's new, what's old and what's a custom command. How many custom commands have you created? How hard can it be?
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I'm trying this but VC crashes every time I try to copy one over, is there another way? that also seems a bit longwinded if you have lots of custom commands you want to copy over
Shango, you can use also ->Mainmenu "File" and then the "backup option". In the backup is the voicecommands.xml, there are all the commands contained.
Kalle
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VC crashes every time I try to copy one over
I only have that problem if MP is open :-\
that also seems a bit longwinded
I agree - it took me a while to work out which commands I had created and altered and then to work out the best way to save them because in some cases I will be replacing commands in newer versions of VC and in others I will be adding commands that I have created :-\ (and I have only just started playing around with this stuff..)
copy your old voicecommands.xml... then open it in the bin in the new version of VC. Drag what you want over to the active tree.
That's an easy solution too but because ...
....there is no magical intelligent "merge" command that knows what's new, what's old and what's a custom command..
.. it means you still have to go through and work out what you've changed. It would be good if there was a way of automatically "marking" commands as being "custom" (or if VC magically knew ;D ). At the moment I'm doing it manually by adding "CUSTOM" to the title of the command, then I set up the bin file so that the commands I have created or customised are in the same folders that they are in in the main tree (eg. MPWFIGeneral - Delete Recording CUSTOM). When I load a new version of VC I open the matching folders in the main tree and the bin file and copy the custom commands across which makes overwriting VC commands with my version easier. I could put the commands I have created into a "CUSTOM" folder but at the moment I "tie them in" with existing folders. Might not be the best way to do it but it works for me... NOTE: I have only done one upgrade (last night) so it's not like I'm talking with a lot of experience here! ;D
Regards
Bleazle
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I would probably put all my custom commands all in one folder. Or if you put a distinct symbol in each like say a $ then you could use the find function at the top of the tree to highlight them all by searching for $
going forward from here though the standard configuration probably won't change that much so it might make more sense to just keep your configuration and if there are any new commands you can just import them. If you look at XBMC and MediaMonkey the standard configurations that ship with VC haven't changed in a while.
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.. Or if you put a distinct symbol in each like say a $ then you could use the find function at the top of the tree to highlight them all by searching for $...
That's why I use "CUSTOM" 9so I can search for all custom commands) - but "$" is quicker to type so I might change to that ;D
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That is what I was planning to do was create a group for my added commands, as Bleazle mentioned though I have edited some of the standard ones.
Would it maybe be possible to open our voicecommands.xml, delete all of the current ones and then just drag the entire lot back in from the bin?
That would then and back all our custom commands and edited commands and just replace all the standard ones exactly as they were. Wouldn't have to worry about what you have added/modified and what is standard.
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I have a problem..
The activate windows problem was solved.. But did a re-install of Mediaportal on my test machine, and can't figure out why it isn't working smooth anymore..
I'm using MP 1.2.2, VC 0.937 and the compiled version of Wifi remote..
It was working!!! :s don't know what to do.. Did I have missed something? Is the file changed or someting?
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That is what I was planning to do was create a group for my added commands, as Bleazle mentioned though I have edited some of the standard ones.
Would it maybe be possible to open our voicecommands.xml, delete all of the current ones and then just drag the entire lot back in from the bin?
That would then and back all our custom commands and edited commands and just replace all the standard ones exactly as they were. Wouldn't have to worry about what you have added/modified and what is standard.
I'm not sure I fully understand the steps that you are describing, but give it a try!
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It was working!!! :s don't know what to do.. Did I have missed something? Is the file changed or someting?
I don't think so. Did you replace WifiRemote.dll in the MP process folder with the one from my dropbox?
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just to be safe I recompiled it and am attaching to this post. I haven't tested it but it is definitely using the guimessage fix and not the original activateWindow command.
I did notice that it looks like it is still using activateWindow for opening TV channels. I don't know if that is a problem or not. Obviously it is still using ActivateWindow for all calls that require a loadparameter like the ones to open a movie details page, or a movies or Tv view etc. I have not found a solution for this and the MpWifi crew don't appear to be trying to do anything about it... or maybe they are, who knows. ::confused
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Sorry to butt in, but is it possible to create a command which fires up the pictures slideshow? I've tried using the window ID but that didn't work (just got a black screen). Having said that I have got commands working using window ID's for InfoService (News), Weather & MVCentral (would be great to be able to jump to an artist.. needs to have a payload file created?) If it isn't possible can I clone the "launch MP" command and change the .exe file to launch a screensaver programme that I use? If so how do I enter the path name (the path is C:\Windows\SysWOW64\Nostalgic.scr)
Also with regard to Recorded TV (NOTE: I use the ForTheRecord plugin) is there anyway to jump to a recorded programme (or folder in the case of multiple recordings)? I guess a payload will have to be created (& updated regularly)... next version of VC? :)
Cheers
Bleazle
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Sorry to butt in, but is it possible to create a command which fires up the pictures slideshow? I've tried using the window ID but that didn't work (just got a black screen). Having said that I have got commands working using window ID's for InfoService (News), Weather & MVCentral (would be great to be able to jump to an artist.. needs to have a payload file created?) If it isn't possible can I clone the "launch MP" command and change the .exe file to launch a screensaver programme that I use? If so how do I enter the path name (the path is C:\Windows\SysWOW64\Nostalgic.scr)
Also with regard to Recorded TV (NOTE: I use the ForTheRecord plugin) is there anyway to jump to a recorded programme (or folder in the case of multiple recordings)? I guess a payload will have to be created (& updated regularly)... next version of VC? :)
Cheers
Bleazle
No problem,
I included a command "Browse Pictures" in the Group called "MP Windows (May Work)"
It opens window ID 2 and it works fine for me. Something special about your picture setup?
as for recorded TV, I neither have a TV-Tuner, nor use the plugin "for the record" so "next version of VC" would be highly optimistic. I have no idea how I would call something like that. Can you look in your MP database folder and see if there is something created by "for the record", or some other database file that might contain information about your recorded TV and if so, send the file to me so I can have a look?
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I think this thread has run it's course. If there are any new questions please post them to new threads. they don't belong here since we are no longer using 0.912. Better to create a new topic for each issue I think.
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I agree - I take it you will move this to a new thread?
..I included a command "Browse Pictures" in the Group called "MP Windows (May Work)" It opens window ID 2 and it works fine for me. Something special about your picture setup?
No, that works for me but all it does is bring up the the "MyPictures" plugin, I'm talking about launching the Pictures slideshow....
..as for recorded TV, I neither have a TV-Tuner, nor use the plugin "for the record" so "next version of VC" would be highly optimistic. I have no idea how I would call something like that. Can you look in your MP database folder and see if there is something created by "for the record", or some other database file that might contain information about your recorded TV and if so, send the file to me so I can have a look?
I've had a look and can't find anything - I'm going to run out of time to look into this today and then I'm going to be away for a long weekend (riding the motocross bikes with my boys this time :) ) so I'll check it out next week when I get a chance :)
Cheers
Bleazle
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I have a problem..
The activate windows problem was solved.. But did a re-install of Mediaportal on my test machine, and can't figure out why it isn't working smooth anymore..
I'm using MP 1.2.2, VC 0.937 and the compiled version of Wifi remote..
It was working!!! :s don't know what to do.. Did I have missed something? Is the file changed or someting?
I found the problem.. The problem was:
I had to delete "categoryid: 15" (see the image bellow)
Why is this categoryid there?
(https://voxcommando.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.afbeeldingenuploaden.nl%2Fuploads%2F397543VC.jpg&hash=53e3de2df376f614e150b219b06e643e4e9534be)
PS: I've already purchased the software, but are waiting for my activation code.. Do I received it by Email? I have sent an email allready to billing@voxcommando.com
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I found the problem.. The problem was:
I had to delete "categoryid: 15" (see the image bellow)
Why is this categoryid there?
(https://voxcommando.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.afbeeldingenuploaden.nl%2Fuploads%2F397543VC.jpg&hash=53e3de2df376f614e150b219b06e643e4e9534be)
PS: I've already purchased the software, but are waiting for my activation code.. Do I received it by Email? I have sent an email allready to billing@voxcommando.com
Yes that is a load parameter. It is correct. Categoryid 15 is "all movies", but because either MediaPortal or MPWifi has a bug in it, the use of the load parameters is not reliable. I have noticed that it is worse on my 64bit system (not sure if it is related to the 64bit) and worse with the defaultwide skin.
If you remove the extra parameter (no problem it is optional which is why it is off-white color) then you will open Moving Pictures with no load parameter which will work but it will go to the default page, or the last page you were on. If the load param bug gets fixed, we will be able to use this and not only say "browse movies" but "browse favourite movies" "browse movie genres" "browse studios" etc. and call up any Moving Pictures view. the same applies to Tv-Series plugin.
I got your email, I will email you back in a minute.
edit: the reason you cannot activate is that you paid by eCheck which takes 4-6 days to go through. I will set you up manually though.
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Thanks a lot jitterjames a for the activation code.. Really apriciate it.. Thanks for the trust.. :)
Now i understand the whole load parameter problem.. It was easier to setup if every catogory had his own ID because open ID's is going very well.. I'm happy with the way it works now, but indeed; it would be really nice to open the categories with voice also..
What's the latest version of the compiled wifi remote that this could be solved?
EDIT: I'm also using 64 bit on both machines.. I'm using StreamedMP skin, so it's not skin related I think because you have the samed issue with the default skin.
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I'm not sure why my compiled wifiremote dll is version 0.5 (I know why in a sense, but I thought I found the latest sources) I will check again if there are newer sources that I can modify.
I wonder if the load parameter is only a problem on 64 bit. If anyone else can please report if you have problem with ActivateWindow and load parameter and whether you use Win7 or Vista, and 64 or 32 bit. That could potentially help a lot in preparing a thorough error report for MediaPortal and wifiremote.
I have similar problems with StreamedMP, it just seems to take longer for visual weirdness to show up when using StreamedMP than with defaultWide skin.
What's the latest version of the compiled wifi remote that this could be solved?
I don't understand the question...
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heads up I just released 0.938
http://voxcommando.com/forum/index.php?topic=720