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Help and Support (Using VoxCommando) => W.O.L. => Topic started by: xtermin8r on April 10, 2013, 03:19:00 PM

Title: Wake Your PC
Post by: xtermin8r on April 10, 2013, 03:19:00 PM
Wake-on-LAN (WOL) is an Ethernet computer networking standard that allows a computer to be turned on or woken up by a network message

Magic packet.

The magic packet is a broadcast frame containing anywhere within its payload 6 bytes of all 255 (FF FF FF FF FF FF in hexadecimal), followed by sixteen repetitions of the target computer's 48-bit MAC address, for a total of 102 bytes.

Receiving the magic packet

Most WoL hardware may be configured directly using the system BIOS. However, it is often more desirable to configure the functionality without interrupting the normal operations of the machine. The BIOS step is necessary in addition to configuration from the OS in some cases.
Microsoft Windows

Modern versions of Microsoft Windows integrate WoL functionality into the Device Manager. This is available in the Power Management tab of each network device. In most cases correct BIOS configuration is also required for WoL to function.
Mac hardware (OS X)

Modern Mac hardware features integrated WoL functionality, controlled via the OS X System Preferences Energy Saver panel, in the Options tab. Marking the Wake for network access checkbox enables Wake-on-LAN.


Make sure you enable wol in your pc bios.

(https://voxcommando.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.home-network-help.com%2Fimages%2Fbios-wake-on-lan-2.jpg&hash=0c8ac477820e6625429e79bc920f971c13f17275)

Make sure wol is enabled in windows.


(https://voxcommando.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.home-network-help.com%2Fimages%2Fnetwork-card-wake-on-lan-feature.jpg&hash=cd68d800bd3fa4ffa534fd92fa9fe84a775a3a33)

for voxcommando see pic below
substitute xxxxxxxxxxxx with the mac address of the pc you are trying to wake up.

(https://voxcommando.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwm52.inbox.com%2Fthumbs%2F62_10fe43_cdc69e2_oP.png.thumb&hash=640b7d920ada75158b4e656f423bb5f8ad13dcba)

A fine tutorial on wol.
http://www.home-network-help.com/wake-on-lan.html

Title: Re: Wake Your PC
Post by: maxwel on February 17, 2014, 06:10:21 PM
[edited to remove long quote that hid the actual question. Quotes are only needed when context may be confusing. -nime5ter]

Hi,

Sorry guys I have weird question! I wonder if this also work as computer at sleep and also the microphone and how to set it up?
Title: Re: Wake Your PC
Post by: nime5ter on February 17, 2014, 06:19:39 PM
Not exactly sure what you mean, but if you're asking whether VC can wake up its own computer (?), then no.

But if you have an Android device, you can use VoxWav Pro to try to wake up your VC computer.

I don't know what you are asking with regard to the microphone.
Title: Re: Wake Your PC
Post by: jitterjames on February 17, 2014, 07:19:50 PM
If your computer is really sleeping(S3 sleep state) then so are all the programs that are running on it and they can't do anything.  The only way a computer can wake itself  up is with a timer.

Something like an Xbox one that can wake itself is still running a subsystem to perform recognition, and I believe is still using power too, but hopefully less than it would during normal operation.

Also, if you are having trouble expressing yourself in English, please feel free to write in any language and we can use a translation tool to read it.
Title: Re: Wake Your PC
Post by: maxwel on February 18, 2014, 08:03:56 AM
Not exactly sure what you mean, but if you're asking whether VC can wake up its own computer (?), then no.

But if you have an Android device, you can use VoxWav to try to wake up your VC computer.

I don't know what you are asking with regard to the microphone.

sorry guys for my bad english but This is what I was asking if VC can wake up its own computer! Yes i have an Adroid device and how can i setup to wake up my VC computer? 

Thanks guys i really appreciate your help.

Max
Title: Re: Wake Your PC
Post by: maxwel on February 18, 2014, 08:07:39 AM
If your computer is really sleeping(S3 sleep state) then so are all the programs that are running on it and they can't do anything.  The only way a computer can wake itself  up is with a timer.

Something like an Xbox one that can wake itself is still running a subsystem to perform recognition, and I believe is still using power too, but hopefully less than it would during normal operation.

Also, if you are having trouble expressing yourself in English, please feel free to write in any language and we can use a translation tool to read it.

Salut James,

Vraiment merci beaucoup pour ton aide et désolé pour mon anglais!!!

j'essaie de m'exprimer en anglais pour que tout le monde puisse m'aider.
Title: Re: Wake Your PC
Post by: Kalle on February 18, 2014, 08:28:10 AM
Vous pouvez le voir, la traduction google fonctionne.  :D

Hey maxwel, take a look in the first post here -there is exact the way  ;)

1. after your PC is ready for WOL, start VoxCommando set up the TCPmic plugin. Then start VoxWavPro and connect it with your pc. http://voxwav.wikispaces.com/Installation (http://voxwav.wikispaces.com/Installation)

2. Let VoxCommando open and drive your PC in sleepmode (S3). Start VoxWav on your android device - tab on the small "computer" icon again which will show you your last connected computer -> tab on it.

If you have everything set correct, your commputer will wake up  ;)

Kalle
Title: Re: Wake Your PC
Post by: jitterjames on February 18, 2014, 09:15:09 AM
There are many French users of VC.  Nime5ter and I both speak French, and although I am not really comfortable writing in French, I can usually read it without a translation tool. You can always write in both languages if you prefer.

VoxWav free does not have a WOL (wake on LAN) feature, so you must use VoxWav Pro.
Not all computers can be woken this way but most can if they are properly configured.
On many newer computers WOL will work without requiring any configuration, but if it doesn't work read xtermin8r's post at the beginning of this thread.
If you have a second computer there are some good free programs you can use to send WOL messages when testing, in case you don't want to buy VoxWav pro right away.

In VoxWav Pro when you click the radio tower icon, it sends a "hello" message out to all computers on the LAN. Any computers running VoxCommando will reply with information about their name, IP, and Mac address. VoxWav stores this information. The Mac address is used to send a WOL message every time you select that computer from the list.
Title: Re: Wake Your PC
Post by: jitterjames on February 18, 2014, 09:20:36 AM
And by the way thanks to xtermin8r for a great post!  Better late than never...  ;D
Title: Re: Wake Your PC
Post by: nime5ter on February 18, 2014, 09:48:50 AM
In VoxWav Pro when you click the radio tower icon, it sends a "hello" message out to all computers on the LAN. Any computers running VoxCommando will reply with information about their name, IP, and Mac address. VoxWav stores this information. The Mac address is used to send a WOL message every time you select that computer from the list.

Salut Maxwel. :)

Si tu veux essayer la solution VoxWav Pro, comme James et Kalle ont dit, c'est possible que tu dois simplement activer le plugin tcpMic dans le menu "Options" de VC, et puis installer VWPro. James a montré comment la communication "hello" fonctionne dans son nouveau vidéo ici:
&feature=youtu.be&t=1m10s.

Une fois que VW Pro est en communication avec VC, tu peux essayer de mettre ton ordinateur en veille, puis utilise VW Pro pour le réveiller.

Si cela ne fonctionne pas automatiquement, donc tu devrais suivre le premier poste de xtermin8or sur la modification des paramètres dans le bios de ton ordinateur.
Title: Re: Wake Your PC
Post by: nime5ter on February 18, 2014, 03:28:20 PM
... Juste pour clarifier, il y a deux apps pour Android : VoxWav Free et VoxWav Pro. Seulement la version Pro (c-à-d, pas la version gratuite) a la fonction WOL.

Les deux sont disponsibles dans le Google Playstore.

Si une solution gratuite est préférée, on peut essayer l'autre suggestion de James de chercher un outil Wake-on-LAN gratuit sur le web.

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Just to clarify a bit, there are 2 Android apps available: VoxWav Free and VoxWav Pro. Only the Pro version includes the WOL function (i.e., not the free app).

Users who prefer a free solution may need to follow James's suggestion to find a freeware WOL tool online somewhere.

Comparison of VWPro and VW Free: http://voxwav.wikispaces.com/Comparison+-+Free+vs.+Pro
Title: Re: Wake Your PC
Post by: maxwel on February 18, 2014, 06:45:42 PM
Thank you guys, thanks to all of you ... merci beaucoup c'est très gentil de votre part  ;D
Title: Re: Wake Your PC
Post by: pmdaniels73 on April 10, 2014, 07:07:14 PM
Hey folks. I have been looking for a way to wake a computer remotely that is connected via wireless to my home network. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Wake Your PC
Post by: Kalle on April 10, 2014, 07:29:09 PM
Let me guess, you will wake up a notebook over wireless network with the build-in wireless adapter?
Title: Re: Wake Your PC
Post by: pmdaniels73 on April 10, 2014, 07:32:11 PM
Yes Sir.
Title: Re: Wake Your PC
Post by: Kalle on April 10, 2014, 07:39:59 PM
Please think one moment about that - ok, ok - I will give you a hint - it has to do with power.

3...2...1... STOP

and, have you found the answer?
Title: Re: Wake Your PC
Post by: pmdaniels73 on April 10, 2014, 07:42:26 PM
I done some research on google about it. I changed some setting in bios and changed some adapter settings. Then I downloaded a WOL app on my phone to send packets to wake the computer up. It was unsuccessful though. Also let me apologize for not being as smart as some of the people in this group when it comes to computers.
Title: Re: Wake Your PC
Post by: Kalle on April 10, 2014, 07:50:17 PM
Sorry, but when your Notbook is in standby it would make absolutely no sense that the manufacturer alowed power on the wlan adapter, because it will drain the battery very fast.
Title: Re: Wake Your PC
Post by: pmdaniels73 on April 10, 2014, 07:54:50 PM
So it's an impossibility? Just my luck.
Title: Re: Wake Your PC
Post by: pmdaniels73 on April 10, 2014, 08:00:02 PM
And thanks Kalle. You are a big help on this forum.
Title: Re: Wake Your PC
Post by: jitterjames on April 10, 2014, 08:41:42 PM
As far as I know WOL does not work over wireless.  The only possible solution in such a case would be if your machine could be awakened by infrared.  This is probably not a viable option for most people so yeah, the answer is... no.
Title: Re: Wake Your PC
Post by: pmdaniels73 on April 10, 2014, 10:35:43 PM
Thanks James. I appreciate it.
Title: Re: Wake Your PC
Post by: Haddood on April 11, 2014, 02:10:43 PM
as far as I know WOL is not implemented in WiFi adapters ... in other words WOL can't wake up a device through LAN
the logic is wifi for portable devices ... and keeping wifi on will drain the battery sooner or later then the device can not be waked-up ... if the device is stationed, then there is always a way to connected to wired network and turn off wifi
Title: Re: Wake Your PC
Post by: Telorast on April 16, 2014, 12:53:39 PM
I recently upgraded my router to a Asus RT-N66U (http://www.asus.com/Networking/RTN66U/) and for some reason it doesn't support WOL passthrough. I try to start my computer from my phone whenever I'm coming home.
I asked Asus customer support and got this response:
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So the WOL function works only like this:
Either use AI cloud APP on your phone, after you have enabled smart access and WOL in it.
Eg ai cloud lite app.
Then log in to your router with this app, and now you should get a list over devices connected, and you can now wake them up.

Second option is under network tools and wake on lan.
Once set up, you need to remote login to the router directly to wake it up.

In short, you cannot use a 3rd party tool here to automate this on our software, the ways described is the only way here.

So I'm trying to figure out how to work around that problem and was wondering if anyone have any tips on how to do that?
Title: Re: Wake Your PC
Post by: jitterjames on April 16, 2014, 02:09:12 PM
why not just use  ai cloud lite app as they suggest?
Title: Re: Wake Your PC
Post by: Telorast on April 16, 2014, 03:17:00 PM
Because that's a manual login and takes forever. I have my phone monitor my location and automatically wake up the computer when I come home so it can turn on the lights and start playing music when I come home without having to leave it on all day drawing power.
Title: Re: Wake Your PC
Post by: jitterjames on April 16, 2014, 03:38:06 PM
If you are only turning the machine on when you are home then you don't need to use remote WOL. You are on the local network so a normal WOL packet should work.